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Are Palestinian Scarves Still Authentically Alt?

Was doing some online shopping, and I had a musing ‘worth blogging about.’

I remember when Palestinian scarves were ‘all the rage’ back in the electro era of the alt world. Altbros and altbroads would wear them all the time. Went perfectly with a pair of sunglasses I read on a wikipedia page that these scarves are called “kaffiyehs” and that they are a militant fashion. They apparently are anti-Russian and anti-Israeli.

I think in recent months, it has become ‘cool’ to support Israel and altJews, so I’m not sure if it is still a ‘kewl thing’ 2 wear, even though rappers started 2 wear them so I’m not sure if I can say that black people h8 the jews.

I remember when shuttershades died, and we thought the world was gonna end. Kinda sux that all products have a ‘useful life.’ Wish we could all be ‘useful’ forever, but I guess that’s probs not realistic, especially in terms of ‘women.’

Kinda h8 when trends go from being ‘buzzworthy’ to ‘being worn by inauthentic entry levelers.’ Just feel like my personal brand is getting stale, and I need a NEW AESTHETIC to implement asap that has nvr been done b4.

Miss u Scarf Coverage

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2008/07/kute-girls-have-the-right-to-show-skintheir-facesnips.html
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2008/06/the-future-of-the-t-shirt-industry.html

Kinda wish I could invent the next ‘t-shirt’ — something that would stay around 4ever just cuz it’s so functional and EZ… As a design school student, I can’t help but ask the question–is there something better out there than a t-shirt that would meet our wardrobe needs?

Am I less authentic and too mainstream if I find a whimsical product like the ’snuggie’ to be ‘funnie’ and try to construct an ‘inside joke’ about it with a group of my friends even though lots of groups of friends have an identical inside joke?

Just want a new product where design+meme+branding+viral marketing+progressivefunctionality meet to create a super product. Kinda like ‘the iPod Shuffler.’

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36 Comments

  1. t
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    wooow first!

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  2. altCreep
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    THEY WERE NEVER FULLY AUTHENTIC CARLES BECAUSE THEY LOOK ASSHOLISH IN KANYE WEST SORT OF KINDA WAY!

    take care bro, have fun tonite.

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  3. i think
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    keffiyehs are for cosmopolitan moms and 12 year old girlz now

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  4. A$TRO
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    still waiting for “snuffie” + justice ‘the party 2.0′

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  5. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Theres this guy, and anytime i see something supposedly “alt” on him, I know its way, way past its prime.

    And he started wearing kiyyefs last semester.

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  6. J
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    i am wearing one as i type this.
    i am also wearing a lot of american apparel.
    relevant to my interests

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    //////////Reply by gfgf fgf
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    LAme!

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  7. hardtug
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    ppl like the jews?!

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  8. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    “Kanye West Hates Jewish People.”
    -GW

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    //////////Reply by soren.
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    @Modest Yahoo, hahahah

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @Modest Yahoo, lol

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  9. May
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    God no, I don’t even wear them and I’m mainstream =l

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    //////////Reply by gheyoki
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    @May, same here…
    plus I found them extremely unattractive

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  10. Bob
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Video making fun of the snuggle.

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1897842/

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    //////////Reply by Anoneeeemuce
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    @Bob,

    collegehumor.com = entrylevel, if even.

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @Bob, if u Accepted™ the alt perspective of the nature of the universe, we — the ppls of the world and the consumers of the products — are locked in an epic struggle btw alt & mnstrm. if ur an authentic (hacksterbro would say “lemming”) hro bro, collegeehumor is our arch enemy. It’s providing lols to mnstrmrs.

    i’m “questioning everything right now” though because i lol’d pretty hard at the WTF Blanket video.

    ugh “the kids don’t stand a chance” – Miike Snow

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @SilverTell, truly the most rlvnt discussion of the alt-mnstrm divide i’ver read evr.

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  11. stupid fad
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    I always thought the fad originated from southeast asian countries and japan. I was born in a third world asian country and people wore handkerchiefs like that to cover their noses from pollution like how they would wear surgical masks when they are sick as to not get the publice infected.

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @stupid fad, lol

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  12. melissa
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    All the sorority girls at my university wear “kanye scarves”. Help.

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @melissa, here in SLC, all the sorority girls are become “altsisses,” like altbros, but women. many of my alt-brethren have fallen 2 them, i think that mnstrmrs r using altbro+altsis 2 destroy altculture by preventing alts from reproducing [via nookie]. c

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  13. atruck
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    That shit stopped being authentic the second somebody in the West put it on. We’ve got a long history of trying to coop authenticity from other cultures, but trying to copy style from people living and dying under siege was too hilarious even for smug alt white kids to pull off.

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  14. Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    miss you arafat

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @deadsound, lol

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  15. theyalltruth
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    I’m trying to make suspenders happen. is it too late?

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    //////////Reply by до свидания
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    @theyalltruth, braces (alt word 4 suspenders) r currently cool but probably about 2 die. ur l8.

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @до свидания, braces and kanye scarves r similar in that they come and go. if alts haven’t been wearing them for a while they’re ready to become popular again like when “Paris is burning” [via Jewstice's electro "Stress" gang.] Then when dancing azn memes from Yale wear them they’re dead. U kinda have 2 wait “a little bit” and learn how to ride the Wavves.

    They only work when .5 percent of any party is wearing them. If ur at a Soulwax//neon banger party [via 2k6] and there are 1000 ppl, it’s ok 2 for a couple other people 2 b wearing them. If ur at a gallery opening drinking “artsy booze” and there are 200 people and u C another bro wearing braces/kanye scarf, then UR 2 L8.

    My advice. Skip the braces/scarf. Go with the poop pants.

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    //////////Reply by wavves
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    @SilverTell, is so fucking badass

    //////////Reply by theyalltruth
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    @SilverTell, I’m actually glad ppl answered this, cuz i was basically being serious. Yeah, my area isnt very alt, but I am by no means the ONLY alt. But nobody ever wears suspenders (its too early for me to adopt the term braces) . folks wear the fggt scarf, but I’ll be wearing fggt jeans, and dont want to overload.

    Im gonna try it out and see what happens.

    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @theyalltruth, d00d my dad [first gen alt in 80s] wore them, mayB all the first-gen alt stuff is nao coming back, like noise punk.

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    //////////Reply by до свидания
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    @theyalltruth, if u want wear them go 4 the 70s skinhead look (not a neon look) it in right now and looks better.

    braces have a advantage over terrorist scarves bcuz they “r a real fashion” that rich old white ppl wear.

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  16. vivi
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    BRING BACK THE PONCHO

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    //////////Reply by ....
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    @vivi, i live in baltimore and saw dan deacon wearing a poncho.. must be real authentic

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @vivi, i live in salt lake and all the altbros+altsisses r wearing them. inauthentic.

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    //////////Reply by el fggt
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    @vivi,
    i was wearing a fucking poncho when i was 12, bro. i was PURE MEXICALT.

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  17. br
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    just copped a surgical mask from duane reade, probably gonna make it my style like bloody beetroots with masks after i learn to play some bangers on my virtual dj software

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @br, plz du

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  18. Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Snuggie is the best joke going.

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  19. Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    I wear my snuggie to the mormon temple

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    //////////Reply by mstrcnt
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    @bigtyme, i wear my snuggie to PTA and KKK meetings (hood sold separately)

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @mstrcnt, lol

    note: i’m not lqtm. i’m loling. this just rly has me laughing 2day

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  20. mstrcnt
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    carlesssss!!! this morning i was talking to my lil sis bout the snuggie…i guess i bought into the ironic hype w/o even knowing it. HELP!! u hit the alternative nail on the head (the nail is neon) with the snuggie inside joke. gonna go buy 1 at target n start wearing it in public :(

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    //////////Reply by SilverTell
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    @mstrcnt, wear it 2 the Aoki show 2nite plz

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  21. Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    at sundance i saw this d00d with a keffiyeh. At first I thought he was another hipster. but then i watched a movie and it turns out he was the Iranian director. He wasn’t an anti-Israel altjew, after all, he was wearing it b/c Gaza sux and the Iranian gov’t cares more abt palestinians than iranians.

    It’s still k00l to wear then if ur an altarab/altpersian.

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    //////////Reply by deadsound
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    @Gurkman, “hey cool another keffiyeh, this d00d looks sick, better check out his film. oh w8, palestinians and those who support their plight have been wearing them for decades? whtvr, their still sickazhail”
    -cant believe you said that

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    //////////Reply by Captain Irooni
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    @Gurkman, so you were at Sundance and witnessed this supposed obamination? oooooh so special you are. did you report your schtick back to Beverly Blvd. and your agent who wants you to do yet another movie about the Holocaust?

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  22. Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    So, my friends and I have been toying with the idea of Snuggie ownership for 3+ months. The major impediment has been a combination of vestigal dignity and living in Los Angeles, where one would only be useful 22 days out of the year. My question: Are alts in cold places actually breaking down and buying snuggies? Like, are NY hipster parties one jump in heating costs away from being Snuggie-fests? Does the recent upsurge in Lumberjack Alts portend a new breed: The “W.a.l.l*E” Human Alt, whose personal brand is built around comfort foods, snuggies, and traveling in tragic tuggles?

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  23. Greg
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    THE JUMPSUIT IS THE FUTURE

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @Greg, probly true, they r working class, shocking, and a few of them wer @ fashion wk. plus they r ironic [via mnstrm tween band The Red Jumpsuit Apparatuses]

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    //////////Reply by el fggt
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    @Gurkman,
    they r also retro [via david bowie]

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  24. dirk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    kanye looks like a dick in whatever he wears….. what is he, like 31… and he dresses like a 17 white kid from the burbs. lame.

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  25. grant golland
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    they look like they are a band

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    //////////Reply by grant golland
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    @grant golland, the cult bros that is

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  26. Captain Irooni
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    nope. since Israel’s gory attack on Palestone’ian children last month, being Anti-Zionist is now akin to being Anti-Apartheid. it’s the new brown struggle, not snuggle.

    so keep your hipster diapers on whitey.

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    //////////Reply by v
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    @Captain Irooni, palestine: peace not aparthied by jimmy carter

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  27. Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    every group of friends I know has a snuggie “inside joke” and its all the same. you hit that shit on the head carles

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  28. Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    It was never cool to support Isreal Via baby murdering zionists.

    Wearing the keffiyeh in the west was traditionally a show of solidarity with the Palestinian cause.

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  29. Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    all this talk about the middle east got me thinking. can u do a post about persians/persian music/persian modern culture? or has this been done

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    //////////Reply by yeyobama
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    @MENACE MODE,

    Just watch the episode of south park that is like “300″

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    //////////Reply by Rani Size
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    @MENACE MODE, I found one source:

    http://www.VizardOfTheVestside.com/

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  30. bvarden
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    I stopped wearing my palestinian scarves a few weeks ago because every indie kid poseur I saw was complementing their lensless wayfarers with one. It’s always nice to be confirmed as beig ahead of the curve by HRO.

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  31. Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    PEOPLE THAT BUY THESE ARE FUCKTARDS. SERIOUSLY.

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  32. Posted February 28, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Jedi wear snuggies

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    //////////Reply by daws bbq
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    @tripp, that’s max funny.

    carles, lightweight sunwear already met optimization in the tall-t. she affords ample platform for design school stunting, permits v neck navel-dive cuts and exhibits an oft-useful facade of solidarity by concealing hormonal uprisings in historically problematic anatomic regions.

    crystalballbroadcast declares war on snuggies; prefers tubetops and mermaid tails. resisting juhz exercises futility; wear sitting bull headdresses, get money. in obama era, best to take heed of black taste and recognize appeal of long johns and bulletproof vestises.

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  33. lanes
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    lets all be rly mainstream and send each other bumper stickers about snuggies like the tweens on fbook do.
    *slits wrists*

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    //////////Reply by louis
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    @lanes, i dont use the facebook anymre, its too mnstrm now that barry is on it

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  34. MrsOfficer
    Posted March 1, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    they really do look like a cult!

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  35. Russian
    Posted March 3, 2009 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    In Russia in the ‘80 Palestinians left their scarves as souvenirs to Russian girls after having sex with them.

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  36. Melissa
    Posted May 13, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    You people are destroying the English language. Quite frankly, I could give a rat’s ass whether or not it’s still legitimately alt-douche to be suspender and Keffiyah clad under your ironic Snuggie. People who actually work in the fashion industry have far better things to worry about, as should you.

    By the by, the colors on your website make me want to vomit.

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