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Nirvana wasn’t ‘that good’ nor were they very ‘influential.’


Every year, people ‘get all sad’ on the anniversary of Kurt Cobain’s death. Feel kinda weird when people ‘mourn the death of music’ when a celeb dies too early. Sure he was a chill bro, an ‘authentic artist’ [via heavy drug usage], and ‘had no bad intentions’, but I think I’m just kinda bitter and jealous that I am not perceived as being as revolutionary as certain bros.

Don’t really have a problem with CobainBro, but just kinda ‘baffles me’ when certain bands and artists are ‘mourned’ if they expire prematurely. I wonder if people are ’sadder’ about the ‘assassination’ of John Lennon, or if they feel alright with his death since his ‘best days of music’ were probably ‘behind him.’ Wonder if we could have made a movie like ‘Walk the Line’ [via Johnny Cash [subvia Joaquin Phoenix]] about Cobain if he had ‘got clean’ and ’stayed alive.’

There are certain artists who are apparently ’shattering genres’ and ‘changing the way that young people think about the concept of COOL.’ Want 2 be one of them, just like the Nirvana. Just hard 4 me to believe that Nirvana was ‘that different.’ I think the song “Smells Like Teen Spirit” sounds exactly like the Brittney Spears song “Circus.” Just hard for me to imagine how Nirvana could have been that different if the only way for ‘kewl music’ to ‘get out there’ was because MTV+radio ’said so.’

Important statements about Nirvana.

  • Nirvana wasn’t that good.
  • The Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana [via Dave Grohl]
  • 86% of generation Y have not listened to “Smells Like Teen Spirit” all the way through
  • If you listen to ‘good music’ today, your favourite bands will not list Nirvana as ‘an influence’ unless they are ‘huge ass holes’ or ‘from Seattle.’
  • I think Nirvana’s brand was ‘not giving a fuck.’ Kinda wish they were around now so the modern celebrity blogosphere could ‘brand them as being ass holes.’ Would have liked to read about Cobain’s death on Perez Hilton, then have ‘Perez’ scold Cobain for ‘being a fucking junky.’
  • I think that Ryan Adams and Kurt Cobain might have ’similar brands’, but think Ryan Adams will never kill himself because he is fortunate enough to be obsessed with himself. He also has the power of the internet to ‘keep himself busy’ when he is ‘alone.’
  • Think that Kurt Cobain wouldn’t have killed himself if he had the sense of community that comes with joining a social network.
  • I feel sad when some1 plays the intro of “Smells Like Teen Spirt” on guitar, and then sing the lyrics like they are ‘meaningful.’
  • Courney Love is in a band called HOLE
  • Pitchfork would have given the ‘best’ Nirvana album a 4.7
  • People who still go to ‘mourn the death’ of Kurt Cobain are people who think that ‘life is a music festival.’ These people are hopefully going to be priced out of the modern music festival so that tweens can have a safer/more sponsor-friendly experience.
  • Wish that more people used Cobain symbolism, kind of like dumb people use Che Guevara/Bob Marley. But I think he just ‘killed himself’ for no real ‘good reason’ than ‘being tortured’ when he actually had a pretty good artistic setup, authentic family, and could probably get paid for the rest of his life and eventually ‘figure out the internet’ and say ‘fuck record labels’ and give away their music for free [via iPhone app]


Miss u bro. Wish u could have made an indie album in the late 90s.

I think maybe I just feel threatened by Kurt Cobain because if he had kept making music, indie, bloghouse and electro would have never happened.

How do u think UR WORLD would have been diff if Kurt Cobain had stayed around?

Wonder who the most important Seattle band of all time is.  Maybe Death Cab.  Worried that Portland is the new Seattle.  Feel weird when I interact with GenXers who are still ‘obsessed’ with Nirvana/Hootie and the Blowfish.

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66 Comments

  1. Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    FUUURST!

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    //////////Reply by HipsterRunoff
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    Nirvana = overhyped
    Nirvana /= overrated
    Grohl = badass
    Cobain = badass = dumbass = missed
    Novoselic = kinda weird

    Living spirit of Nirvana is still in Flipper, that aging art-punk band Novoselic played in for awhile. Closest I could find…Foo Fighters concert is nice but ain’t the same….

    Flipper’ll be on warped tour, so go say hi and get drunk with them and they will teach your altmind how it used to be, what it still ‘could’ be. They kick ‘ironically authentic’ music’s ass – after all these years, their priority is still pissing people off but ‘expressing’ themselves.

    Nirvana’s body died, and their friends were bands like Flipper, they made an effort to host part of the spirit and keep it safe so it didn’t get neglected and die like a sad brown child.

    But it’s been fifteen years and now the host bodies are starting to get tired, some are starting to die. Go see them NOW before it fades away.

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    //////////Reply by jim
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    @Lance Dior,

    TOTALLY AGREE – plus the Replacements did it better in the 80’s.

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  2. Mememememememememe
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Nirvana were as good as this article is.

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  3. tripler
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    miss u cobaine bro
    h8 u courtney love (via ‘killin him off conspiracy’)

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  4. DietCoke
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    dude, I feel weird too, like im ‘missing something’.

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  5. pete
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    listen to smells like teen spirit (Dj Sega remix)…its killer

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    //////////Reply by blipOFFurRADAR
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    @pete, s000 good.

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  6. Jordan Catalano
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Wait, the Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana?

    You sir, are so incorrect with that statement it’s almost profound.

    Brokencyde are better than the Foo Fighters.

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    //////////Reply by bro
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    @Jordan Catalano,

    exactly

    nirvana < foo fighters < brokencyde < … < anco

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    //////////Reply by EL FGGT
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    chrissy castles > bloggable electro remixes > nirvana > tvotr > fighters of foo > radioheadbro’s solo album > radiohead > brokencyde > mgmt

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    //////////Reply by bloodkilla
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    This post is garbage. I enjoy your blog, but this makes you sound like a newb.

    Almost every young new band today who has an edge is either consciously or subconsciously influenced by nirvana.

    poor show.

    //////////Reply by mugen
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    @bloodkiller,

    lol@bloodkiller any band is either consciously or subconsciously influenced by nirvana?

    the only way you to justify that is by saying people are influenced by anything they hear, but then you may as well say all bands are influenced by u2.

    so why bother?

  7. Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Try to listen to No Age or Wavves or Times New Viking and say they weren’t influenced by Nirvana.

    And while Pitchfork wasn’t around when Nirvana was, they still placed “Nevermind” as the sixth best album of the 90s.

    Interesting points, I just totally disagree.

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @Bradford, trying listening 2 the sonic youths + the pixies and say nirvana did something ‘new’ or ‘innovative.’

    btw, p4k has a fetish 4 ‘ppl who kill themselves,’ just look @ their ratings 4 the joy divisions.

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    //////////Reply by angelheaded
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    @Gurkman,

    nirvana weren’t influenced by sy / pixies, they were riffing on scratch acid, melvins, chrome and other pnw-originated sounds. get off pitchfork/wikipedia and make your own shit.

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @angelheaded, sry yall, 4got there was ‘no internet’ in 1988. the closest thing they had wuz BlackFlag.

    //////////Reply by DragonForce
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    @angelheaded, By their own admission, Nirvana was heavily influenced by The Pixies. Kurt Cobain went on record saying that “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was just a desperate attempt to write a song in the style of The Pixies.

    Unrelated (to this thread) point; this post is clearly meant to be incendiary. I seriously doubt that Carles even believes his own flamebait.

    //////////Reply by angelheaded
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    @angelheaded,

    Maybe that top 40 garbage was, but Bleach and their original tracks are a completely different story. That’s the poser sellout shit that lead to his suicide.

    //////////Reply by angelheaded
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    @Bradford,

    Nevermind is poser: *Bleach*.

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    //////////Reply by EL FGGT
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    @Bradford,
    even anco was influenced by nirvana. pandabro thanked him in some liner notes and they did a cover of that deodorant song once.

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  8. Anonymous
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    lol carles you’re really baiting the naive commenters with this post. not really humorous, insightful or relevent just trollbait

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    //////////Reply by bloodkilla
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    @Anonymous,

    correcto

    and carles, you can’t seriously believe that foo fighters > nirvana, that is laughable

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  9. Calvin Johnson
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    ‘Vana’s been called overrated so many times now I’d say they’re underrated.

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    //////////Reply by angelheaded
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    @Calvin Johnson,

    i wouldn’t be surprised if this really is calvin. a smart, authentic PNW bro.

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  10. maranda
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    CARLES. Please elaborate:: how would Kurt’s continued life have thwarted the advent of indie/bloghaus? don’t get it. seems like it was inevitable

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  11. vivi
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    i don’t even know what to think about nirvana since it’s been so0o cool 2 call them ‘overrated’ for almost 2 decades now

    on one hand they inspired a lot of shitty generic ‘post-grunge’ bands that still dominate certain fm radio stations (except failure, which was maybe the only decent band 2 come out of nirvana influence, but the radios never play them)

    on the other hand, if it wasn’t 4 kurt cobain’s ‘namedropping’, no1 would know about the pixies, shonen knife, or the melvins, among other rly good bands from the late 80’s/early 90’s

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    //////////Reply by angelheaded
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    @vivi,

    HRO: a magnet for those who fetishize “mechanical expertise” [via Adorno-bro]?

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @angelheaded, funnie.

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    //////////Reply by anon
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    @angelheaded, i knew it was only a matter of time before adorno got namedropped on hro

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  12. poly
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    when kurt was alive, pearl jam was way more popular than nirvana

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @poly, 2day the same thing is true, except none of us interact w/’the wrong kind of white ppl’ [via Christian Lander]

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    //////////Reply by anony
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    @Gurkman, And better… sorry it’s true. But then I was never into grunge. It’s not that I don’t like it it’s just kind of vanilla…. but there is nothing wrong with vanilla sometimes.

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  13. Leyla
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Carles, you’ve gone off the deep end (via this article)

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    //////////Reply by anony
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    @Leyla, We’re far past the time when we can all admit that Nirvana was never as great as everyone wanted to believe. People automatically get extra cred points for being dead…. that’s how it always works.

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  14. Marie
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    A movie was based off of his life. Gus Van Sant’s Last Days with Michael Pitt.

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    //////////Reply by bbbbb
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    @Marie, i thought u were gonna say ‘milkbro’

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    //////////Reply by EL FGGT
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    @bbbbb,
    harvey milkbro: grunge pariah?

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    //////////Reply by anony
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    @Marie, Saw it. Boring as hell… accurate? probably.

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  15. Posted April 9, 2009 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    rubbish

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  16. Posted April 9, 2009 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    1)Nirvana were not sonically influential inasmuch as they were a great synthesis under the auspices of an incredible songwriting force (both the band and Cobain).

    2) They are seminal in the cultural evolution of meaningfulcore on nearly every level.

    3)You could create an amazing Kurt Cobain theoretical blog.

    4)The 90s influence is ascendant right now. Electrobangers+Lync riffs=big in 2k10.

    5)I probably would only be embracing Nirvana now because too many broseph Stalins would have dug them when I was in Jr. High/High school if Cobain had lived.

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  17. dan-onymous
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait for Frances Bean to be the ‘next big thing’

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    //////////Reply by Gurkman
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    @dan-onymous, ‘Frances Farmer will Have her revenge on Seattle’ – the nirvanas

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  18. blipOFFurRADAR
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    i remember in 2k5 when i heard nevermind/’smells like teen spirit’ all the way through for the first time. i remember that i was having trouble ‘really listening’ to it because not only was the music ‘not approachable’, but my entrylvl alt mind was having trouble with the ‘i make music b/c i kinda/rly hate/don’t get the world y’all’ message i got from the lyrics. i’m willing to acknowledge nirvana’s influence on today’s music, but i’m just kinda apathetic about their existence generally tbh. way to ‘honor the dead’ tho carles.

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    //////////Reply by anony
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    @blipOFFurRADAR, Uh.. it is what it is. I get it but then I kinda don’t. It was a movement at the right place at the right time but it sure was gone in a flash…. along with Seattle who really just can’t hack it right now it seems… grunge seems to have morphed into the shitty hardcore rap mental. Portland is the new buzz city of the northwest and it’s damn innovative right now.

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    //////////Reply by daffy
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    @anony, carpetbomb portland

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  19. Yo Daddy
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    “Feel weird when I interact with GenXers who are still ‘obsessed’ with Nirvana/Hootie and the Blowfish.”

    What a clueless fucktard you are.

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  20. Yo Daddy
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    PS: This blog has way too many fucking ads. What is this, Tiger Beat?

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  21. Callie
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Portland is the new Seattle.

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    //////////Reply by dogboyvan
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    @Callie, New Delhi is the new New York (via outsourcing)

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  22. weak
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    wow this blog has never fucking sucked more. you are the worst music blogger ever.

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    //////////Reply by AstroCandy
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    @weak, incorrect. you are the dumbest blog reader ever.

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  23. innocente
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    A&R types in the 1990s kept showing up in Portland and everyone here was told “You’re the New Seattle,” “You’re the New Seattle.” All that came out of that finally was the Dandy Warhols and kind of/sort of the Brian Jonestown Massacre… and maybe the Decembrists.

    I don’t remember exactly when Elliott Smith killed himself but that was later i think……

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  24. apple!
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    d00d. finally someone who agrees with me that nirvana isnt that good/good at all. <3 yourideas.

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  25. punkin
    Posted April 9, 2009 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    carles bite me, as if

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    @punkin, best comment so far.

    Remember that Pepsi 90s “pop culture” phrases sweepstakes? Wonder what a 2k0’s version would be like.

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  26. Schling
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Damn, they sure did some “Radio Friendly Unit Shifter” ’s

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  27. Posted April 10, 2009 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Portland can pretend to be Seattle all it wants, but it will always be its bastard lovechild.

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  28. tuk
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    True dat.

    except foo fighter r superr mianstream and therfor not bettr.

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  29. Johnson
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Nirvana ruined my middle school experience the same that AnCo has ruined my recent adult life. H8 both.

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  30. h8 u nirvana
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    will ppl mourn heath as much as kurt cobain?
    was heath better than kurt? probably.

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  31. *\o/*
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 2:13 am | Permalink

    nevermind has been my first cd. guess its been 1991 or 1992.
    even if i havent listen to nirvana for years now…its been a blast then and this aera means much more to me than all these hipster garabe nowadays…even if i like some of this shit…most will be forgotten in 1-2 years. uuh..im drunk…guess u get my point?!

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  32. louis
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    is that seinfeldbro?

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  33. Joooooooe
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    Nirvana never wrote a banger. Or a meaningful ballad. Nor a ‘thrash anthem” Actually, nothing I could ever bother noting as a killer tune. Boring music for boring bro’s. Go listen to Seether you punk bitches.

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    @Joooooooe,

    1/10. I raged for about half a second before I realized this couldn’t be serious.

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  34. Posted April 10, 2009 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    fuck off nirvana was a really good band. kurt cobain wrote really good songs. just because they were swallowed up by the mainstream dosent mean they sold out their values. it could be seen as a victory to the alts in the sense that nirvana fooled all mainstream fggts and rode the wave of money that was thrown at them

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  35. Butch Vig
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 3:59 am | Permalink

    Youse wise guys need to fuckin’ edumacate youseselves:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5074745239075255736&ei=CQrfSee8JoaIqQOz9Oz8Dw&q=1991+the+year+punk+broke&hl=en

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    //////////Reply by nathan
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    @Butch Vig, the bassists green-tinted shades are way cool, i like how he’s too punx for shoes. i guess “pressure” applies as a message to teens, kind of like the sultry cheerleader at 0:48.

    not sure which band member i identify with. i feel like the drummer has the most authentic brand because his hair remains in his eyes the entire video.

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    //////////Reply by nathan
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    (meant to comment the teen pressure video)

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    //////////Reply by hey
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    @nathan, so not hip to comment old hro posts no one is commenting on any longer.

  36. ......
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    lulz at these comments

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  37. Matthew
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    I didn’t read a word of this post or any of the comments, but, yes, Nirvana: overthefuckrated. Nothing but bland and boring. Pink Floyd, too, can suck it. Rush, while I’m at it, as well. Also, even if I liked that shit I still wouldn’t like Metallica, kind of like, if I were Republican I still would have hated McCain.

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  38. Posted April 10, 2009 at 4:55 am | Permalink

    u know who iznt dat gewd and inflewential 2
    AnCo!!!!!!!!!

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  39. boards
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    All u f^ckt@rds would not being listening to indie/rock/bloghouse, etc if it weren’t Nirvana’s breakthrough into the mainstream. Regardless of their actual, objective talent (what is that anyway) they helped create the path for pre-alt kids to become alt-kids b in the d. pixies weren’t going to do it because frank jack black was too effing weird. PJ was tooo effing BRO’d out and sonic youth obviously can’t appeal to everyone. Nirvana could do all that and thank god they did or we would all be listening to TLC or Snow reissues.

    Hating Nirvana is obviously a new way of making yrself more ALT than alt. But you really just sound like a D-bag. If you weren’t alive then, you shut yr mouth and thank heavens for Cobama for bring change in 1991.

    PS I don’t believe Carlse in this post. At all.

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  40. Waa Waa Waa
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    ALL UR TEEN SPIRIT R BELONG 2 US BITCHEE!!!:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhHHr8RXnJc

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  41. Cobra Kai
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Pretty ignorant post here. It’s kind of hard to judge a band from this music era when you were born in 1991, Carles.

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    //////////Reply by Kurt Cobain's Ghost
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    @Cobra Kai, exactly. Let’s wait and hear some of the “tunes” Carles is working on and then we’ll do a comparison, eh?

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  42. alternativeprincess
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    CARLS

    Your Stats are wrong.

    About 66% of GEN Y has been ‘obsessed with smells like’ for a while before ‘getting tired’ of it and starting to ‘hate it’.

    ~some who was s0 obsessed with Kurt <3, but not s0 mach </3 ~

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  43. Posted April 10, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Cobain is a metaphor for indie music bro. We could’ve taken over but we had to give up for authenticity’s-sake. As they said in the 90’s duh…bro.

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  44. aghast
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Culturally relevant? How about learning how to spell and use proper grammer. You sound like a complete idiot, man. Grow the fuck up.

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    //////////Reply by mulletmofo
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    @aghast, proper GrammAr, bro. Good advice on the spelling.

    Sweet 75> Foos> ‘Vana

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  45. anony
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    …nirvana killed punk rock. i guess they’re kinda important mainly for bros that don’t know how to dress ghey/hip yet and need help.

    neways, i liked their first album better.

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    //////////Reply by anonymous
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    @anony, anco > vana

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    //////////Reply by
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    @anony, Adjust your time coordinates there, Technician. Punk was long-dead before Nirvana came on the scene. I guess you could try to argue that Nirvana killed 1st wave post-punk, if you really wanted to.

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  46. Simon
    Posted April 10, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    I love pdx but Seattle will always be better. Nirvana/cobain/grunge nailed the coffin of heavymetal/shit rock of the 80s shut, so we should atleast thank them for that

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  47. chelsea
    Posted April 11, 2009 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    bro

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  48. DNK
    Posted April 11, 2009 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    frst i totally agreed n then yall seem really pissed off n now i dont kno if i’ve been suckered n this whole post is a test.

    knda thnk hes spot on tho.

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  49. jer
    Posted April 11, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    U’re so fucking retarded really just die in a fucking hole. i feel bd for u.
    Btw u listen to absolutely horrible music except animal collective….ur really pathetic and so is this blog. and evry1 who actually follows this blog is fucing retarded…btw yall arent hipster

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    //////////Reply by re:jer
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    @jer, h8 u jer

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  50. Posted April 11, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    nirvana invented the checkered shirt

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  51. t4yo
    Posted April 11, 2009 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Bill Nye > Kurt Cobain

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCmaxzH6JhI

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  52. Jorge A.
    Posted April 11, 2009 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    You know, it’s a good thing everything Hippster Runoff says is complete bullshit. You know, like he/she/whogivesafuck is using Burroughs cuttup method to form a rational argument from the cell divisions of ameobas. Oh wait, that doesn’t make any sense. See? Reading Hippsterrunoff you start wondering if there is a wrong with your reading comprehension….but now, then you realize Hippster Run off is just fucking dumb. Good article, btw, bro!

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    //////////Reply by
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    @”using Burroughs cuttup method to form a rational argument”, Cool metaphor, bro. Wonder where you got it from.

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    //////////Reply by Jorge A.
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    @¶, I read books and stuff. I made it up. Someone else said it first? How synchronous. there are no original ideas.

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  53. Posted April 11, 2009 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    This was the first Cobain deathday that I even thought about the possibility of him living on instead of dying. It had really never ocurred to me before. Cobain was always a ghost to me.

    His career would be over 20 years old by now. Would he have constantly reinvented himself like Bowie, stagnated like Vedder or receeded like Brian Wilson?

    I think Nirvana would have broken up within a few years anyway. I could imagine Kurt lying low for a long time.

    20 years is a long time to wax and wane. Kurt could have become as unpopular during that time as Brett Michaels is/was. His violent death made him cool forever.

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  54. Peter Juice
    Posted April 12, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    seriously?

    to deny the cultural significance of nirvana is to basically admit you dont know shit about music or music history. i guess when youre like 62 years old, it’s hard to understand the importance of a band that was around before you were even born.

    i cant believe you blog here. you have no idea what youre talking about. get a job and get a life, hipster scum.

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    //////////Reply by Peter Juice
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    @Peter Juice,

    I said 16 years old, not 62. someone edited it.

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  55. Posted April 12, 2009 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    like robert johnson, cobain made a deal to sell his soul to satanbro 2 become a meme. he then promoted other artists who did the same thing (via hi, how are you shirt now avail. at urban)

    carles subverting of easter –> how do you think carles got this far

    damned hipsters all of them.

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  56. noah
    Posted April 13, 2009 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    bradford cox says in interviews all the time that his biggest influence was nirvana

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  57. vinne
    Posted April 21, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    whoever posted this shit about nirvana is pretty lame i mean come on nirvana was one of the best bands in the world and ya know smells like teen spirit isnt their only song listen to come as you are,sliver,lounge act,all apologies,dumb,school,in bloom,lithium,about a girl,negative creep…nirvana is a great fuckin band

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  58. dale
    Posted April 21, 2009 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it’s so much that Nirvana was a significant band musically… It’s just that the pop-rock genre had lost all it’s credibility due to 80’s hair bands and the music industry recognized that Nirvana represented a wonderful opportunity to market a different type of rock that wasn’t too avant-garde or specialized for the general population.

    Most of the innovation in rock that Nirvana represented had already taken place. Nirvana was just a radio-friendly form of it.

    It’s sort of like crediting Nine Inch Nails for being innovative when in actuality Ministry and Skinny Puppy were the real innovators in dark industrial music.

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    //////////Reply by odiumimbued
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    @dale,

    You know genius lyrics when you hear it, anyone could have come up wtih the easy chord structures, but the lyrics are a punch to the soul, a shot of life, and make you want to start something new.

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  59. cmag
    Posted April 22, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Nirvana = overhyped
    Nirvana /= overrated
    Grohl = badass
    Cobain = badass = dumbass = missed
    Novoselic = kinda weird

    Living spirit of Nirvana is still in Flipper, that aging art-punk band Novoselic played in for awhile. Closest I could find…Foo Fighters concert is nice but ain’t the same….

    Flipper’ll be on warped tour, so go say hi and get drunk with them and they will teach your altmind how it used to be, what it still ‘could’ be. They kick ‘ironically authentic’ music’s ass – after all these years, their priority is still pissing people off but ‘expressing’ themselves.

    Nirvana’s body died, and their friends were bands like Flipper, they made an effort to host part of the spirit and keep it safe so it didn’t get neglected and die like a sad brown child.

    But it’s been fifteen years and now the host bodies are starting to get tired, some are starting to die. Go see them NOW before it fades away.

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  60. Momomo
    Posted May 16, 2009 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    “A ‘Culturally Relevant’ Blog.”
    No, i don’t think so reading this…

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  61. Female1
    Posted May 17, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    You my friend, are a jack ass, because you can’t hear what everyone else can when listening to Nirvana, maybe you should take your d*^k out of your ear and listen for once.
    PEACE

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  62. lilly
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    ’suicide’ was influentual music

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  63. odiumimbued
    Posted June 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    honestly i think kurt would have liked techno.. such songs such as territorial pissings and his never ending solos or outros are huge in techno.. its a constant never ending repetition.

    These sounds were going through kurts head in 1989, and only now do we listen to that stuff.

    Also back then people didn’t listen to anything but hair metal and country. Nirvana won the battle because they changed music radio. While you probably wouldnt have heard of eminem or your favorite punk bands now if it wasn’t for nirvana.

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  64. Butt
    Posted June 7, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    just to clarify, this article (and entire site) is just a masterful effort to troll people by self consciously writing from an extreme hipster douche bag perspective, right?

    because if not, this article is horrendous and the author should leave the internet never to return.

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  65. Posted September 14, 2009 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    You guys who think nirvana was bad are mean. even if you dont know someone that dies you shouldn’t say that you dont mind, or it is good that he is dead. Yeah so they weren’t very influencial, but they were good. Smells Like Teen Spirit, All Apologies, Dumb, Heart Shaped Box, those were just a few of they good songs they made. Kurt Cobain Died to early for them to be influencial, but they would’ ve if he didnt die.

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  66. HollowAxis
    Posted September 24, 2009 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    It’s pretty obvious that this article is

    1- A desperate attempt to seem cool by holding an opinion that is contrary to everyone elses.

    2- Written by someone who does not have a broad knowledge of music.

    To be able to blog about music you have to actually listen to it, pay attention to it’s current trends and understand that those trends arose from what came before.

    There is simply no way that you can justify the claim that ‘nirvana were not influential’. Liking their music is a different matter, that’s subjective. I for instance love this band and always will, for many reasons. You may not, but simply ignoring facts is ignorant.

    For a band like Nirvana to sell so many records, attain the success that they did and have an affect on society/other artists is incredible. Nothing like it had happened before. Their success flipped the music industry norms around and changed almost everything about the business of music.

    I would go so far as to say that if Nirvana (And all of the bands that moulded and formed them and their scene/environment) (Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Melvins, etc etc etc) had not happened then 80% of the bands making rock music today would not exist. Their influence and the influence of the other bands of that time shaped music and the business of music then, and it shapes it now.

    Just like Led Zepplin, or Sabbath, or The Beatles. (And countless others) Nirvana took everyone by surprise and they DID change things.

    Subjective opinions aside you cannot deny that, and it’s stupid to try.

    Lastly, your writing is awful. I can’t believe people read this blog when you write so terribly. Your command of english and grammar is fucking shocking.

    Later poes….

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