I am the SleepyHeadBro.
This bro is me.
This is my youtube presence.
Sometimes I get the feeling that ‘being alt’ is just some sort of game. Like any1 can dress up to look alt, if you just shop at the right stores, or if you wait 1.3 years for Hot Topic to sell ‘what seemed alt 2 years ago.’
Should I buy an expensive hair iron?
Should I buy a zany wrist band?
Should I buy a Palestinian Scarf?
Should I buy a time machine and live in 2k7 forever?
Should I draw ‘blood’ running down my nose to make ppl think that I just did ‘a shit load of blow’?
Not sure who I am. Might be growing older. Might be losing touch with the tween generation. Seems like it might all just be a game of ‘fucking dress up.’ Not sure if ppl even really like music, or if ‘enjoying music’ is just aligning your personal brand with shifting aesthetics over time to represent ‘personal growth.’ Not sure why I like what I like. Losing it. Losing everything. Honestly don’t even know what the best album of 2k9 is.
Is it no longer authentic to be ‘alt’?
Was ‘alt’ just some sort of ‘defense mechanism’ 2 keep from feeling like ‘just another brick in the wall’?
What is the new ‘alt’? I feel like I must answer this question in order to move forward as a blog.
Alt is dead?
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//////////Reply by Apreludes
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
@Doz,
http://bit.ly/fqeiL
Was shocked when I saw this post – been going through similarly apocalyptic thoughts lately. Not sure what our future is!! :(
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//////////Reply by Apreludes
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am
@Apreludes, stupid Tumblr posts never work when directly linked to. Here. http://bit.ly/27YEMp
The point is that I think the whole concept of alt dying is a generally felt feeling and not just something Carles is declaring. This is really haaappening [via Thomas Yorke]
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shit man
this isn’t good
what next?
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tres portillos… ALT IS DEAD THO FOREEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLS
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yes Mainstream’s the coolness, kinda like how Stillness is the Move
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//////////Reply by le_petit_llamabro
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
@cantoxiv, lol
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well it is pretty played to be alt as it has been, you just gotta do it some new way, i’m trying to move on from tight jeans + ‘ironic tees’ everyday
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//////////Reply by Herpesterrunnoff
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
@neezy, baggy jeans and serious tees?
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//////////Reply by April Anova
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
@Herpesterrunnoff, YES!!!!!
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//////////Reply by le_petit_llamabro
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
@Herpesterrunnoff, no baggy jeans and whacky tees and jump limbs outstretched mouth agape looking in2 camera *FLASH FALSH * the new alt
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Tweens are not alt.
No matter how many times you say it, it will not be true.
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
@dax jax, tweens dont rly exist bc they don’t rly have any idea wtf is going on ever. they are all gona be rly fucking weird too like y is this kid putting mascara on and french tickling his taint?
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//////////Reply by sdf
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
@gnar sesh, this is s0 tru
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//////////Reply by lykk
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
@dax jax, i agree, tweens are waaaay to much in their ‘finding themselves’ phase of their lives to really ‘be’ anything.
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obviously, b-ing just a bro who likes music is not ‘adequate’. sometimes that’s all that really matters tho.
2 bad we all didn’t have personal stylists {like new/improved kings of leon}
i think dump people r the new alt
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//////////Reply by Duke
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
@harald, dumb people were the new mainstream in like ‘2k3′
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Alt’s not dead.
That kid doesn’t seem to be a bro.
He doesn’t seem one bit authentic.
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//////////Reply by Chrises
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
@Hobbs,
damn man
can’t you see?
that kid is a genius.
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//////////Reply by Hobbs
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
@Chrises, he just doesn’t seem very chill to me.
I could be very wrong.
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//////////Reply by BlipsterCambridge
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 4:23 am
@Hobbs,
You are right, he is not a bro.
He is not alt.
He is a hot topic shopper.
He is a mnstrmr.
//////////Reply by Hobbs
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
@BlipsterCambridge,
My thoughts exactly.
i cant see the difference between alt and gay
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//////////Reply by finni
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
@anon, ghey
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hiphop is dead
autotune is dead
…and now alt is dead
not sure whether I should pour out a “forty”, some purple drank, or a sparks
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//////////Reply by EmilyQ
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
@tommy, i like your style.
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 5:20 am
@EmilyQ, second that
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//////////Reply by Jenny Haniver
//////////Posted August 30th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
@tommy,
blue ribbon
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wow, is anyone more observant of the state of affairs today than this beautiful mystery writer? Hitting the nail on the head. I’m so feeling good about you
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
@jimmie morrisson, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down [via progressive canadian thrash]
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//////////Reply by NONO
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
“the dck that sticks up gets rammered down” [via ne pas' throat]
Hahaha ur such an aynalkween ne pas!
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
@NONO, luv feeling wanted/needed by u. like i’m ur ‘entire world’.
//////////Reply by NONO
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
@NONO, betchu do ;)
//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
get a life ne pas. attempts to throw out lame offences behind obscure references are WEAK. Man up. Just do it.
Your whole world is crashing down on you ne pas. Soon you’re going to be like the low-income suburban burn outs from the eighties who still go to the supermarket in spandex and long curly perms.
It doesn’t take a genius to know that the alt brand is a dying fad.
Just submit to daytime tv. NOW.
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
@jim morisson, propagandhi is not obscure. they r the best electro band evr. take it back. now.
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am
@ne pas, do u rly think mixing up bands on purpose like crls is humorous? Ok, keep it up then.
//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
@ne pas, afraid i dont kno wut is funnie n e more…ps i am carles?
//////////Reply by hawkings
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am
@jim morisson, i think its alt to want to be like jimm morrison. I THINK I WAS JIMMIE IN A PAST LIFE BECAUSE IM HOOKED ON DRUGS
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
@hawkings, uh ok…my name is jim morisson.
//////////Reply by hehe
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
@hawkings, LLLAAAAALALAAAALLAAAAALLLLAAAAAALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALALALALALLLLAALLLLLAAAAAAAAAALLALALAAALLLAAAALLLAAAAAAAAAA
//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
@jim morisson, that’s ur answer 2 evrything
//////////Reply by chong
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
@jim morisson, <3 when u 2 go at it
(under the covers)
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//////////Reply by harald
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
@jimmie morrisson, i am jim morrisson
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pokemones stay alt. need 2 move 2 so amerikkka yall…
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//////////Reply by lykk
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
@ne pas, pokemons never were alt because all the mnstrmrs who think they are ‘quirky’ like pokemon shit…:/
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i feel gay for writing this all out but there was never such a thing as alt. like any other claim to identity its all about your perspective. if you thought you were really cool cuz u listened to electro and indie thats because in your mind you thought that everyone else listened to the radio and shit. theres college kids in bangladesh that think theyre alt cuz theyre majoring in photography (which truly is alt over there because everyone else is trying to be a doctor or an engineer). no matter how early in the trend you were, the idea of wearing skinny jeans appealed to u cuz baggy jeans were becoming fashionable and u were like ughh i hate these bros. now that the internet allows us to spread ideas/trends incredibly fast ppl are unable to keep up with claiming their own identity and claiming their ‘uniqueness’. the real truth of the matter is that you are not unique in your clothes, interests, hobbies, favorite music, political beliefs. The only thing that can truly separate you from others is to be 100% true to yourself.
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//////////Reply by JT
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:25 am
@fredMS, cool story bro
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//////////Reply by bANANAS
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:03 am
@fredMS, ur last sentence is fair game, but the rest is pretty h0stile. wut u g0t againzt alts? what if we r being tru to ourselves by following the ALT way 0f life?
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//////////Reply by brian
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am
@fredMS, lol
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//////////Reply by chong
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
@fredMS, also follow ur believe in urself and dreams
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
@chong, since wen is HRO a fucking therapy sesh? BE TRU 2 URSELV YALLZ!!!!
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//////////Reply by crotchrocket
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
@fredMS, i like tigt paaaaaaaaaaaantsssssss
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//////////Reply by Jenny Haniver
//////////Posted August 30th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
@fredMS,
i agree with you. you pretty much said it. it’s not real, the same way that money isn’t real (even though it is (but it isn’t)).
and i don’t see anything hostile about giving a little truthiness.
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Tweens are too undecided and as such are overly impressionable. Yet they seem to have solid, concrete foundations in their head that tell them to keep searching for the next quirky/zany/’in’ trend to keep them relavent even though they don’t know how to rel a vent.
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does anyone else assume every african-sounding name they see on pitchfork is the tv on the radio guy
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//////////Reply by ani
//////////Posted August 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
@shellsae, yes
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tweenieboppers r just “finding themselves”.
feel like although being around them “awkward as hell” it’s an opportunity to witness a deep spiritual experience too. (via growing up)
i think maybe we see some of ourselves in them and that’s why they make us “uncomfortable”. :’(
everyone starts as a poser yall.
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HR = not alt NEmore
ALT = ALT 4ever
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//////////Reply by cantoxiv
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
@eedit, Math done by a true college dropout/liberal arts major.
HR > ALT
not alt NEmore x 4.3(2x-b) – c = the location of the next cobrasnake party pic location
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Fuck alt. Just be authentic and create a ‘new alt’. that’s how it happens. and yeah, you grow out of it. everyone does. I have. I’m authentic in the way of doing whatever I actually like. not trying to fit into some niche.
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//////////Reply by I am the Psn Mouth
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
@I am the Psn Mouth, also… people should try belladonna or datura with *extreme caution*… (not being held responsible for deaths) but it will make you ‘find yourself’… or something very very different.
Also I may be the only one here educated on these chemicals…
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//////////Reply by Eric
//////////Posted August 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
@I am the Psn Mouth, shit’s dangerous, don’t try ‘true hallucinogens’.
Bros new to psychedelics are always funny, they think they’re the only ones who ‘know’ all about everything other than mushies and acid.
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//////////Reply by I am the Psn Mouth
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:28 am
@Eric, They aren’t even “true hallucinogens” they are ‘deliriants’. far worse. This is what I get for reading erowid obsessively at the age of 14… Far too many ‘experiments’. I’m lucky to be aliiiive!!
//////////Reply by I am the Psn Mouth
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:43 am
@Eric, also… haha.. you think I’m a bro? (Skinny Puppy references come off as masculine I guess…..)
//////////Reply by katzenjammer
//////////Posted September 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
i’ve never seen a bro on psychedelics.
i could only imagine that tripping with a bro would be very weird.
as for the “new alt”, i agree. be yourself and like what you like, dress how you want, and live how you wanna live.
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//////////Reply by I am the Psn Mouth
//////////Posted September 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
@katzenjammer, Bros can be very fun to trip with if they can handle it. Mostly rolling around the ground and laughing at things like somersaults. I usually keep myself composed while my mind is off somewhere completely different.
It really sucks trying to live how you want to live when you don’t live where you want to live. Maybe I should go the ‘apathy’ route and jump on a greyhound and test my luck.
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y do you keep deleting your pic CRLS?
can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen…
can’t take it, don’t dish it…
still making fun of “youtube douchbags” but won’t let us post your pic.
pussy
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//////////Reply by BlipsterCambridge
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 4:26 am
@frijoles,
His real pic is hidden somewhere on the internets..
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//////////Reply by megatitz
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 5:27 am
@BlipsterCambridge, found his dead myspace. it’s there, lurkin’ in ur interwebs.
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//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
there’s a Carles Hro on fb and he’s some fancy looking asian guy. yeah, i searched him. be weirded out. idc
alt is dead. long live the New Sincerity. its time to stop typing in your blogs like this, carles. stop using ‘ and typing “4″ or “ur” or “yall”. its done. New Sincerity is the way to go
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//////////Reply by crazydutchbasterd
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
@noway, how about no, scott
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Thank you. For 99% of people Alt is just a defense mechanism to avoid feeling like another brick in the wall.
It’s for people who aren’t too talented successful but feel like they’re special. I think it’s because we all get told this when we’re little.
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//////////Reply by crotchrocket
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
@Blade Shakur, agreed. noone is special every anywhere. once you accept that yr good to go.
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why try, why not call my hairstylist and tell them that my next photoshoot is in Miami, fuck this bitchass town.. I am stylin
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what if the new alt is not even aligning one’s “personal brand” with music
what if we were to never just “chill” without listening to music
how would we know ourselves
then we would be truly vulnerable
to be vulnerable is to be alt
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prep is the new alt
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//////////Reply by bANANAS
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:04 am
@skinrat, hahaha u are so wrong!! UR STUCK IN 2k1
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//////////Reply by skinrat
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 5:24 am
@bANANAS, sorry, you seemed to have pressed the ‘Caps Lock’ button on your keyboard during your last comment. judging by your name you have a problem with this.
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sleepyhead.mp3 = rickroll.mp3
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//////////Reply by b4hc
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:30 am
@al gore, sharing sleepyhead.mp3 rickroll.mp3 on slsk now lol thx 4 the tip
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terrorists are still pretty alt.
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nothing is alt. everything is accessible and will be duplicated. the lifestyle and career you all built on being ‘fresh’, ‘hip’, ‘alt’ was only a mimic of a group of cultural extremist who felt they had reach the pinnacle of cultural relevance. you didnt invent. no one did. it started as a latent spark, evolved, and is now being diluted so as to be easily digested to the perpetual appetites of american consumers who find their cultural substantiation through purchasing and mimicking. but take solace in this, for this is our culture. this is our behavior. a constantly evolving band of humans searching for relevance. PERHAPS YOU CAN LIVE NOW, CARLES. LETS HEAR IT FOR CARLES’ NEW EXISTENTIAL AVENUE!
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//////////Reply by purplepenguin74
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:41 am
@zoetrope, that’s right. Good comment. For example, the 2000s idea of Alt’s really been dying down. The whole “being cool” thing is really looked down upon by alot of people, more than I ever remembered. It’s subtle, but you can feel it. It’s always easier for younger kids to dress up and “be cool”, but the older you get, obviously you have to dress a certain way or be totally dismissed as even, dare I say “relevant”. (Unless you live in LA or are a real rock star : o p) But you knew that.
So in other words, you have to start wearing expensive baby blue oxford shirts and upper-middle-class “French casual” clothing or else be looked down upon, even by people who actually “are cool”-hell that’s what they’re wearing anyways: expensive-looking gear. Also, a lot of “cool” people are starting to either give up trying so hard to look alt, or because times are “changing”. They really are. The economy, culture, etc. Here’s an equation: if black culture=*was* truly “alt”, and black=finally in the White House, you know that whatever was truly “alt” (black culture itself) has now really been reconsidered. Even two years ago, New York Magazine had that whole “The Hipster Must Die” article, which must have made some people feel just self-conscious about being “cool”/alt. I think it was because alt became a bunch of people copying each other too much and nothing truly “new” was being created. The ratio of people “following” and actually “making” decent stuff was tipped. “Cool” culture cycles have a short shelf-life, because the cycle of cool/mainstream keeps reversing/changing its cycle every few years, sometimes dies down for a while, too, like when there’s a bad economy.
Music-wise, though, Carles-remember that good music is good music and it really does not matter whether it is alt/”cool”. But its up to you, you see? It’s great to be ahead of everyone and to like cool bands, but always keep in mind the songs/bands that makes YOU + (you’re immediate circle of friends) feel “okay” when you hear them, and not want to smash your radio into bits. Music always keeps changing, and your tastes may eventually, too.
But anyhow, the you/we just have to keep CREATING and observing, drawing, writing about life and culture, and LIVING. Going out and doing stuff. Or we’ll turn out like the movie “Idiocracy”.
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//////////Reply by brian
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:19 am
@purplepenguin74, lol
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//////////Reply by sie
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:51 am
@purplepenguin74, round o applause. nicely said.
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am
man now that you’ve layed it out all so clearly, purplepenguin, ive completely changed my perspective on life! Im just going to get out there and ‘create’ ‘live’ ‘draw’ ‘mbate’ ‘write’ and so much more so that our country can prosper!
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//////////Reply by crazydutchbasterd
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
@purplepenguin74, stfu grandpa
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//////////Reply by smart intellect
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 3:50 am
tyo shut upr mouth and stpypop typing if u wana hear about smart thing read a philosohpy book cultural theory of dleuze or uh menul dl derrida manuel deland or zizek or psychoanaylsis or even neoplatonism saight i dont come to the blog for the ‘cometns’ on your shit with your societal insight so you can shut your mouth cause you haven’t the high iq score you ato analyze thes things in the depth requried for a contritiutive brekathrough in terms of genius mindsl ik eym own self
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//////////Reply by Chrises
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 5:15 am
@smart intellect,
wow
yeah…one time all was simpler
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any1 can dress lyke an alt. but not every1 can be authentic, yall
I wanna sock dat kidd in the jaw
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Bng blck is the new alt.
They’ll nvr sell the ability 2 b hated by everyone n hot topic.
Wait…
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The best album of 2k9 is Merriweather post pavvy by AnCo, don’t you forget that.
But who listens to albums anymore? Have albums ever been alt? MP3s? Is the new alt yet to emerge, since the album and MP3 have already been used and nothing has come to take their place. Mixtapes? Your friends playing shitty lo-fi minimalistic electronica in you living room? Please tell me Carles!
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//////////Reply by bANANAS
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:05 am
@Pyry, <3 merriweather post pavvy….its magical
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alt at his finest hour http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2655700/
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//////////Reply by BlipsterCambridge
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:26 am
@sie,
Furries are so gross. :[
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//////////Reply by sie
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:45 am
@BlipsterCambridge, ya maybe thats why im making fun of one.
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wats wit all the questionz carles?
if u dont know if u should buy a zany wrist band or an expensive hair iron, how am i supposed to know if I should?
YOU’RE MEANT TO TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD AND SHOULDNT DO, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
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have you guys heard ‘the stills’?
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i saw 2 tweens are am appy in SohO ny about a month ago. they couldnt be 0lder than 11 or 12. they were in neon keds high wasted tie die jean shorts and flowy tucked in tops with angel head bands. not to mention they had acne & braces. they were trying so hard to be ALT—kinda felt like i was in the wrong place. h0nestly it made me feel really stupid. @ that m0ment i realized to these little miley-loving grls, dressing b0h0 was ‘kewl’ 2 them. my friend and i were disguzted. their oblivious mother in a juicy jumpsuit with a small rabbit (via d0g) in her Dooney & Burke purse was on her f0ne yelling @ s0me sad ass house wife LA BITCH. felt like i needed 2 puke right there on the Am Appy bandeau bras and their Jersey Sleeveless Funnel Neck Shift Dress. eeeehk. some1 plz help me answer carls q- what are we d0ing? are tweenz ruining this alt lifestyle? IS IT AUTH anymore? are u trying to find the meaning of life along with milli0ns of jonas brothers fans?
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//////////Reply by bob dobbs
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 8:39 am
@bANANAS, tweens didnt ruin ‘alt’, ‘alt’ ruined ‘alt’. it only ever exisited as a superficial way to express a reality of the human condition – individualism. the youth is the only group succeptable to a superficial movement like being ‘alt’ because they havent lived enough to know how to be their own individual – they only know what they want to reject (mainstream lifestyle = their parents = teenage rebellion = something that has exisited in every generation). Their rejection/rebellion usually comes in a superficial form, ie. clothes, hair, appearance. Once they realize that a.) dressing like an alt will get the attention of the cops more than going undercover as a mainstreamer (for the ‘alts’ who like drugs this becomes a very helpful realization) and b.) there are millions of others dressing the exact same way, so the clothes no longer make a statement about individuality. Its an inevitable cycle of all youth trends. Youth isnt jaded by the realities of ‘everyday life’ so they have the beautiful drive to dig deeper for ‘meaning’ and ‘relevance’, but they are lazy and insecure, so the search ends with a superficial solution, which is just as empty as the life they want to grow away from.
Every ‘alt’ lifestyle has been done. I think the 60’s hippes were the first ‘alts’ and the death of hip was in 1968. The cycle repeats itself.
Psychadelics help.
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am
@bob dobbs, Word.
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//////////Reply by Chrises
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
@bANANAS,
damn, if a couple of 11 year old girls can make you question something you liked just by existing in a certain place at a certain time then maybe you don’t like that thing as much as you thought you did.
and maybe those 11 year old girls have a greater handle on the “meaning of life” than you
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//////////Reply by bANANAS
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
@Chrises, chrises, good attempt to make me feel shitty about myself. i think maybe your spending just a tad too much time looking into stuff. get a hobby.
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//////////Reply by bANANAS
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
@Chrises, POST SCRIPT, dude, you will never be as cool as those 11 year olds.
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//////////Reply by Chrises
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 5:24 am
@bANANAS,
then i guess if you ever saw me at the am appys store you would slit your wrists and bleed all over the bagoscraps (remember cut up the artery not across it)
twin cities angioplasty is where alt has gone. visit your local twin cities angioplasty doctor today.
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alt is now mainstream
the only way to be cool is to be auth, being alt doesn’t make you cool
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carles i suggest you become a proponent for lsd use. nothing would help ppl more to truly become authentic.
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Carles, when HRO turns from fun into work it can’t be authentic.
Maybe it’s already happened.
I can’t blame you for not telling us.
But don’t expect us to tell you where ‘relevant’ will emerge next, tho I think it will appear as plaid shutter shades…or maybe professional ‘yo-yo’s’ with lubricated bearings.
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He’s a 18-yr-old ghey wolf 2
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/trevorhusky/
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it’s not about being ‘alt’ (of course, and carles knows this), it’s about projecting an identity that evinces your wider and fresher and superior familiarity with and enjoyment of your time’s available cultural capital (or something).
it’s also about differentiation, like dandies with their dandy-ish clothes who wanted to be seen as distinct from the plebes — aka as ‘men of distinction’. alts just want to be perceived as smarter and with more beautiful souls than mainstreamers, is all.
of course that should mean graduating from cheap mondays skinny jeans to a subtler, more understated fashion sense/designer clothes, from reading dave eggers to reading, i dunno, pg wodehouse or dante or something, and &c.
i think few take this step to the next level bc really it ain’t for everyone, it takes real smarts and dedication.
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i liked the part about “‘enjoying music’ is just aligning your personal brand with shifting aesthetics over time to represent ‘personal growth.’. I think there is some definate truth to that statement.
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I am a total fggt.
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
@ne pas, who’s using my handle? I am not a fggt. I just like to dckmnch. French is cool.
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:31 am
@ne pas, wait. no. i am 2 a fggt. this is the real me?
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
@ne pas, who the hck is this? i think im a fg… no way, im not! gawd dammit im so confused!!!
//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
@ne pas, i’m confused 2. but still ‘ghey’.
//////////Reply by nonny
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
@ne pas, someone needs a life..
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//////////Reply by ne pas
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
@nonny, 4 got how much fun we had here ‘the other day’
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Acting territorial toward new altcruits is just going to alienate them from the movement. You have to be confident enough in your althood to welcome them in while conveying the unspoken assertion that they “don’t really know what the fuck is up” and you have to find a way to be their big brother without coming off like a pedo.
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moved back to farm town after 2.5yrs in far away, relevant cities after being persecuted for”tight ass jeanz”. farm boys now wearing skinnie jeans. something is dead.
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//////////Reply by al x
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
@anon, same with the dirtbike bros, though it is really rewarding to drive by them and yell “NICE PANTS YA FAGGOT!”
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
@al x, u mean FGGT*
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//////////Reply by al x
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
@gnar sesh, FCK… no Pat, i would NOT like to buy a ‘VWL’
Hey, I made this video. I don’t really care that you posted it or why you did but to let anyone who happens to think I am following some fucking “trend,” I wear and have all the cloths for different reasons. I am not trying to “be” alt. I am trying to be me. As for the fake blood, I just think blood is very beautiful and pretty.
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//////////Reply by al x
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
@Domomachine, why would you make a video of yourself straightening your hair and putting fake blood on your face? Are you gonna make one of you eating then putting fake blood on your face?
the clothes whatever we all learn to dress ourselves at one point, but why the video?
maybe its cause i didn’t grow up with a lappy/utube, but please enlighten me?
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
@al x, i rly hope that isnt him. if it is he should hanghimself.
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//////////Reply by Domomachine
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
@gnar sesh, I really hope thats not how you spell. You should really go back to school.
//////////Reply by Domomachine
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
@al x, If you, and this hole website knew anything about me in the first place you would realize I have very sporadic creativity. I just thought it would be a cool video and it was 4am and I wanted to do something blood related. Its not like this is the only type of videos / content I post. You would know that if you watched any of my videos.
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//////////Reply by Alter-ego
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
@Douchchine, kid ur a fucking fggt, really h8 u. do me a favor and stop pretending to like alt music because your not fooling anyone authentic. why cant you mnstrmrs be content with the shit you already have: jo bro, lady gaga,lil wane, isn’t that enough!? why do you mnstrmrs have to be so greddy and try to take everything away from us alt’s?
//////////Reply by daffy
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
@Domomachine, children should be seen, not heard.
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//////////Reply by testicular dancer
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
@Domomachine, you are a beautiful creature, not a giant ball of cliché with a twist of gay.
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//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
maybe the blood is a metaphor for growing up, like menstruation aka ‘becoming a woman.’
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
@Domomachine, CHUT UP I CAN SPELL I SWHEAR!!!!!!
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Some of the most musically educated and informed people I have ever known dressed like average people. They weren’t concerned with how they looked, they just liked music.
When I was younger I dressed as crazy as I could, all young people go through this phase, personal style becomes extremely important as you try to distinguish yourself from the crowd in order to get the attention of the opposite sex.
When you get a bit older you may not feel the need to dress like that anymore, but that doesn’t make you any less interested in music or culture or art or whatever.
Music matters. Younger people trying to emulate the personal style of the musicians they admire, does not matter. They are just experimenting with their individuality.
And to make fun of them on a blog is on par with high school jocks teasing the nerds in the locker-room mentality. Which is about as mainstream as it gets.
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
@RJC, Ya br0. HRO is s000 mainstr3am. Once again. please stop with the therapy every1.
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//////////Reply by mitch
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
@gnar sesh, u scared of things getting real? these comments are the best, stop moderating my HRO comment section
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//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
@ mithc haha love your sense of irony. straight killin it. milk came out of my nose, swear to god
//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
@mitch, OK I can dig it. I was totes out of line. PEMDAS. (please excuse my dear aunt sallie)
//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
@gnar sesh, My point was that it is a mainstream attitude–you probably aren’t making a real point, but this is just a kid messing around with how he looks. And whoever Carles is, he’s an adult and is way past the point of being threatened by how teenagers dress.
And this was about “liking good music”– what in the hell does this kid’s style have to do with your personal music taste? Isn’t that style over substance, ie “mainstream”?
I really liked this blog and Carles’ humor, and I like some of the music coverage, but I can’t support a site that makes fun of and singles out innocent kids who are just trying to form an identity, even if somehow you think they have the power to actually take away YOUR style.
Come on people. I guess to be “alt” these days means “not to be mean spirited and cliquish”.
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//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
@RJC,
Oh yeah and for the record, the reason I found this site was as a serious music fan, and someone who USED to be stuck up indie kid (meaning I couldn’t relate to anyone) I got sick and tired of the elitist attitude of sites like pitchfork and was looking for something that actually called these hipsters out for thinking they were better than everyone else–and this site I thought was along that vein, but apparently it’s the same high school shit, just being done by adults now.
If you guys are searching for authenticity, then start by not being threatened by people who may wear a similar clothing style or have their hair cut the same way you do. You know, the substance underneath and all that ‘meaningful’ stuff.
//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
@RJC, BUT RJC, What if we aren’t trying to be pretentious or mean and are just sitting in amusement of the strangeness of a confused tween? Is he going to go ‘Columbine’ on his school bc Carles picked on him? No. He will probably grow up just fine. AND BTW High School BS never really ends in this society.
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//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
@gnar sesh, finding a video of some you don’t know, and inferring a lot about how you think they are a poser, isn’t pretentious or mean? And how do you know how this kid is going to react? If you can’t see the difference between singling out a teenager who is at the height of being susceptible to criticism, and some hipster band that is older and is used to being in the public eye, I don’t know what to tell you.
And, Carles is anonymous. At least this kid was willing to put his face on his video. So the kid actually has more guts and integrity than Carles, who sits behind his mysterious alter ego taking pot-shots at people.
But if you can’t understand it, I can’t explain it… this elitist attitude about what is alt and what is not alt IS THE barrier between authentic and inauthentic.
You want to be a self-hating hipster? Make fun of ‘tweens’ and their you-tube videos, the same way you got made fun of in high school. You want to be a real person and see beyond that superficial shit? Grow out of this need to point at and make fun of people, live your own life, and if you are a creative type, make some meaningful art and leave the rest of the world alone.
My two cents.
If you guys want to be bulli
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//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
….If you guys want to be bullies, that’s your right, but the whole philosophy of ‘being authentic’ and ‘life should be meaningful’, in my opinion, is about as far removed from making fun of the way people dress as possible.
//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am
@RJC, don’t think u ‘get it’ :(((((((
//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
@brobro
There is nothing to ‘get’…. I don’t care if it’s ironic or post ironic or post-post ironic, or pre-post-post ironic, there is no way you can package making fun of young kids who never did anything to you as an interesting observation.
It is what it is, singling someone out to make fun of them unfairly. If you want to somehow justify that into thinking there is a larger theme behind it, more power to ya.
//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 1:14 am
@RJC, Wish u were 1 of the people who ‘got it.’ Sad that u’re one of the people who doesn’t ‘get it.’ Will pray 4 ur internet persona’s soul.
//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
@RJC, Yea you pretty much just laid it all out. I kinda feel guilty for being so repulsed by this kid at first view of post. Carles does take low blows and purposefully writes in a politically incorrect way wether he is being ironic or not, you’re right in that he is still anon. and sitting behind his lappy just typing up a storm about this bullshit. I think overall HRO is entertaining the same way a commercial is. Cheap thrillz 100%.
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//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
@gnar sesh, I thought this site was great the first few days I read it, because Carles does have some interesting things to say and he does know a bit about music… but I dealt with this shit when I was younger, being the ‘alt jr.’ trying to fit in with the ‘alt seniors’ and many of them were just too damn cool for school… and all I wanted was to hang out with people who loved indie music as much as I did. I was just passionate about the music.
And I could never understand how so many of these people could love the same music I did, and be so arrogant and condescending to people in their OWN SCENE… until I started acting that way as I got older.
Now I realize how dumb I was, and how they were just trying to raise themselves above others do to insecurity. So I’m kind of disappointed to see that same elitist mentality in a site that I considered to have very intelligent writing and satire.
And…it must be said that it is creepy for a grown adult to be posting videos of teenagers in the way Carles does. Very creepy.
I’m off my soap-box now. Got it out of my system.
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//////////Reply by RJC
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 4:11 am
@brobro—
Thanks for praying for my internet persona’s soul.
As I stick my cock into your mouth, and you choke on my manly girth— please don’t feel that you are unworthy to swallow my milky jizz. Indeed, you were made to suck on, and swallow, my jizz… and I must say, your tounge feels delightful on my penis. Apparently, a man’s saliva can feel oh, so soothing.
I appreciate the reverence you give to my pubic hairs which are now resting in sweet repose upon your hairless feminine alt chin.
Swallow that milky cum and gurgle a little for your new daddy. I love the milky substance that glistens so sweetly on your cock-sucking, confused sexual identity chin. A bro bro, licking the hairs of another bro bro’s anus. Yummy.
Bro bro, this cum has your name on it. Slurp it, worship it… I don’t care. Just Gurgle it baby. Good boy. Yes it’s ok to cough a little. Just kiss my cock….mmmm…. good bro bro. Bro bro is the Queer for THIS YEAR.
Gurgle. Yummy. Pubic.
my future conception of ‘alt’ – everyone’s a dj/remixer, everyone’s an amateur guitarist learning buzzworthy songs via tabs, everyone graffiti’s corporate entities, we design our own shirts via adobeCreativeSuite and cheap screenprinting, we all make shit w 3D printing technology, we all grow organic food (and drugs), we share everything via craigslist, and we humbly teach others how to do the same… oh and we all trip balls on psychedelics once a week sorta like ‘church’…
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//////////Reply by bob dobbs
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
@jacquesFrescBro, fucking fantastic vision bro, lets do it
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//////////Reply by jim morisson
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
@jacquesFrescBro, DOWN.
3d laser printing??? who are you?
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
@jacquesFrescBro, ok I’m in 2.
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//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
so we’re all art school kids in the future.
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Not sure I know what you all mean by ‘alt.’ Why is it always in quote marks? I assume alt = alternative, as in alternative music, which is my favorite genre of music, and if so, I can assure you it’s not dead.
I recently moved to the Boston area and one of the first things I saw on my street was a poster advertising a Marcy Playground show in a couple of weeks — a band that emerged in the first or second wave of alternative in the 90s and, apparently, is still going strong. So have no fear! Alt is alive if we want it to be.
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//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
who’s that sitting in my chair? not my chair, not my problem. that’s what i say.
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//////////Reply by gnar sesh
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
@xoxo, do you thing Damien Marley Rasta 6669(I dont kno if I kno u) [via neon indians] is being ironic or he rly did just discover that ALT means alternative? And that it died/is still alive/whatver.
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//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
@gnar sesh, think he needs 2 b more ’self-aware.’ Or possibly he is way more self-aware than we all are.
//////////Reply by xoxo
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 9:59 am
not sure, i didn’t read the post, my eyes were drawn straight to Marcy’s Playground
‘Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.’
-Bobby zimmerman bro
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//////////Reply by sie
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
@al x, luv it.
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Basically what this cunt has been saying for 3 years is, from a 30 something has-been indie alt kid that carlesbro is…(not showing his identity is so f*cking lame)…that “alt” which is a very U.S phrase, doesnt exist because it gets quickly absorbed into mainstream, hipsterland , or whatever the fuck he wants to call it…..
It crushes him that what he (most likely) lacks in good looks, has to make up belong to some “alt” scene…..”alts” isnt a movement, not political….just a simple rejection of mainstream, and lower down the line what he terms “hipsters”, which absorb the alt culture, merely as a fashion assessory……In fact you could say that hipsters are a catylst from alt to mainstream, wedged in between…..
Carlbro is saying his middle aged opinions to poor teens and twentiy somethings who are just enjoying life and dont have time to analysis stupid cultural genres that he despises other blogs using, but for some reason believes “alt” is valid, or indeed has been valid. According to this prick, “Hipsters” are just fashion peeps with no idea, and just choosing styles and music that they think they should be choosing. Why people who are “alt” read shit blogs like this, listen to the highly overrated music like “animal collective” who have 2 good songs, and has taken 15 years to get noticed with their cut and paste music……
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//////////Reply by al x
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
@gretch, you got it all figured out dontcha. you must be carles….
cheer up big guy, its aight.
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//////////Reply by anon
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
@gretch, Carles is us. We are Carles. Obviously someone has to write this blog that gets such a big reaction from you every time. You wanna show everyone what Carles looks like and think you got him numbered because you can put a face to whose writing. Big fucking deal. You still don’t get it. You never be as intelligent as Carles who plays you like a violin every time.
Carles has to filter how much attention he gets while your begging for it.
Your really trying to take the fun out of a very tongue in cheek and satirical blog.
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//////////Reply by gretch
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 4:22 am
@anon, thanks carles, didnt need you to explain it to me……..im beyond this blog…im taking it down
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I remember when 311 was alternative.
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business casual is the new alt [via alt is in ur 'heart'/'soul']
):(
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//////////Reply by bob dobbs
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 11:04 am
@daffy, no, __________ is the new alt, ‘fuck the man’ forever
fuck tha police too
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you sound depressed. maybe its not the most obvious observation but perhaps you should take music and more importantly the hype/media coverage of events like festivals, fashion etc.. which are a constant.. and drop them down into a dustbin. who fucking cares should be your motto for the day. fuck alt, fuck trend, fuck human tendency. just fuck it. thats it
best album of 2009 is 1-900-LAWYER
i could listen to that shit all weekend
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just let me chill listenin to kewl boring music
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being alt has become mainstream it is no longer alt. there will never be anything that is truly alt. one must transcend the mainstream and the current perception of alt, to truly become alt now. form a cleavage between yourself and others. Record yourself talking in your sleep, what you say is the real you, become that person. you will find true happiness. and true individuality.
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//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
@Alke Talke, hehheh, cleavage.
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//////////Reply by Alke Talke
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
@brobro, dont be a prick.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cleavage
grow up. unless that is what is your true self. let me know… im interested.
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//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 1:16 am
@Alke Talke, not sure i ‘get’ this art/cmmnt. Pls help??
//////////Reply by Alke Talke
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
@brobro, okay so, i believe that it is only in our sleep that we are our true selves, im asking you, if being a prick is part of your true nature. let me know if you need me to further my explanation, i am more than willing to teach you.
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Should I buy an expensive hair iron?
Should I buy a zany wrist band?
Should I buy a Palestinian Scarf?
Should I buy a time machine and live in 2k7 forever?
Should I draw ‘blood’ running down my nose to make ppl think that I just did ‘a shit load of blow’?
$15.00 hair straightner from walmart
Friend gave me the wrist band
Friend gave me the scarf
2007 sucked
I didn’t draw fake blood, I made it. I made it look like a nosebleed because if you read MY blog or looked further into me instead of mindlessly posting it on your poorly designed site you would know I find nosebleeds very organic and beautiful.
I suggest you know your shit before you talk it.
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//////////Reply by lol
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
u got aced domo
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//////////Reply by Hung Fa Lo
//////////Posted August 26th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
@lol, the alt gay Fred speaks.
All your memes are belong to us!
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//////////Reply by xsc3n3x
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 9:14 am
@Hung Fa Lo, a lot of the time i think scene kids are superior to hipsters
//////////Reply by dee
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 10:20 am
@Domomachine, ok i know u want to express urself on the internet at ur age, nothing wrong with that, go hard bro, but do it semi anonymously and then delete everything wen u turn 18. That is how i did it
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I just fucking love you man. I just love you. So hard. Have a nice day. I hope you read the comments.
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Dunno why anyone’s getting upset over this guy. I thought this was what an entry-level alt was.
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†here is nothing so agonizing to the fine skin of vanity as the application of a rough truth
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this chick is hot. any1 got her digits?
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Yo, Carlesbro, I have written ALT IS DEAD in all caps in the comment section of every altBlog i’ve read in the past 3.2 blog years. You are way behind the trend. By now, saying ALT IS DEAD is mainstream.
“ALT IS DEAD” IS DEAD.
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//////////Reply by floppy bubes
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
@brobro, youre dead
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//////////Reply by floppy bubes
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
wut
shit fuk is dis
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rlly sad that alt is ded now and i have to find something else
everyone i see on the street now looks like alts did 2 yrs ago
i think im going back to being a gamer :(
i wish mainstreamers werent so good at talking about new things that are old
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//////////Reply by karlheinz
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
@louis, maybe DEAD IS ALT???? LIke we kill our selves heheh ok not
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//////////Reply by karlheinz
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
@karlheinz, shit i meant to reply @ BroBro shit f*ck
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mayb we should look to european countries for the next ‘alt’ or whatever [via Sweden and stuff]
not england or paris because those are pretty lame countries
everyone at my school looks like 2k7.5 hipsters
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natural science is cool
evolution is cool
civil war is cool
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Internet killed the Alternastar.
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1st
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//////////Reply by anon
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 4:07 am
@rolotony browntown,
2nd
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//////////Reply by ima creep
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
@anon, ONE TRILLIONTH x Bleak182s x Bee52s x 311DoorzDown(Syndrome’s) x LOLOLOLOL x NumberZ x 69th
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most relevant hro post in the last blog year
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How can alt be dead? I remember when “Alt” became a label on record bin. There will always be ALT cos here will be a new gen that needs a label. IF ALT is dead another word will just replace it.
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Hello, everyone. Have any of you heard of a band called Radiohead? I just heard their album Pablo Honey and I thought it was really good and kind of “alt.” So maybe alternative styles aren’t dead.
(A sidenote: Carles keeps talking about a website called Pitchfork Media that looks like it’s for alternative music. Do you guys know if that is a good site?)
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//////////Reply by mathias_nirvanafan
//////////Posted August 27th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
@brobro, have you heard about cocept of ‘ irony’ how is right way of apply it (?)
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//////////Reply by Bert Brobain
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 7:22 am
@mathias_nirvanafan, have you ever heard of the concept of not raping the English language?
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//////////Reply by mathias_nirvanafan
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
@Bert Brobain, no
//////////Reply by mathias_nirvanafan
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
@Bert Brobain, ok i was making fun of you bc i didn’t think your comment was very funny that’s all i don’t hate you or anything, peace out bro (love not hate, love your neighbour is the new alt)
//////////Reply by brobro
//////////Posted August 29th, 2009 at 1:11 am
@mathias_nirvanafan, Sorry, I don’t think I understand what you guys are talking about. :((((((((((((
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does anyone really give a shit? i feel like you people are wasting way too much brain power and energy on these painfully satirical posts…
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//////////Reply by Kipster Kreme
//////////Posted August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 am
@noisebot, no, mental masturbation comes quite easily for most of us.
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Thankyou 4 ur insight into the workings of alt. It has made me truly find myself and this blog has had an impact on what i’ve done today. I feel it is my duty to buy an i am carlos tee, but will they ship 2 the UK?
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lol @ all of u.
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some of the comments on here are absolutely ridiculous. OH NOEZ a 16 year old on youtube is wearing a wristband!!!!! he has taken my personal style away from ME!!!! *cries* get a grip. wear what you want, label your style if you must, and let other people wear what they want. theres so much more to life, and so much more to people. i think the video is cute, and i subscribed to him on youtube :) this is his most popular video, thanks to this article. THX GUYZZZ STAY ALT!!
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will alt seek to ‘re-define’ itself when the strokes release a new album? are the strokes the godfathers of contemporary alt? would like 2 know…
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To be really alt in America you need to be a traditionalist Shi’a Muslim who does not use computers, wears earth tones and slack pants, and listens to super obscure/elite psych folk from the middle east and serious electroacoustic music. If you do that, there is zero chance the mainstream will encroach upon your deal.
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