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Is Portland’s alternative brand deteriorating?

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I have always heard that Portland is the perfect alternative city . It’s not like Brooklyn cuz u don’t have too many inauthentic transplants moving there and accidentally ‘corrupting the scene’ since they are ‘alternative immigrants’ who need 5-10 years to learn ‘the way of life.’ It seems like a place where they actually honor alternative ideals, such as ‘going green’, ‘being vegan’, and chilling in the wilderness/public space. They have some sort of ‘thriving music scene’… There must ‘be something in the water’ or something that has made it an alternative utopia. I imagine that if u walk down the streets in Portland, u will see dozens of conceptual pop bands performing for the sake of music–not to make money.

I was startled when I saw this t-shirt that said Portland FUCKING Oregon. It made me think that my assumptions about Portland’s brand were entirely wrong. Maybe they are undergoing some sort of ‘massive population shift’, or perhaps the city has been corrupted with transplants. The shirt seems ‘in ur face’, as if the city of Portland is a hardXcore band, or possibly a crabcore band. It seems like Portland’s authenticity might be ‘going up in flames.’

I feel scared about this shirt, sort of like how the ‘Keep Austin Weird’ shirt sold the Austin TX ‘free-spirited’ brand to mainstreamers, eventually leading to tons of corporate development, making the city 60-90% less authentic.

I might move somewhere, and create a “Keep (location) alt” t-shirt. It will probably have to be somewhere in ‘the middle of nowhere.’

I just need to find a place to live that is ‘perfect 4 me.’ Tons of kewl bands passing through, a thriving alternative scene/economy, and possibly some sort of organic foods market. Hope I live in a community that has banned walmarts. Hope that I live in a place that is good for ’singles.’ Hope I find a place where the real me can be set free.

Worried about Portland FUCKING Oregon.
Does n e 1 from Portland FUCKIGN Oregon know if Portland FUCKING Oregon is in trouble?

Does ur community/scene have an ‘official shirt’?
Do authentic ppl wear this shirt, or is it just for ‘tourists and maltstreamers’?
Where do u want 2 live when ur a grown up?

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78 Comments

  1. andre
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    first bitch. carles, burn in hell

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    //////////Reply by above you
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    @andre, had the chance to be first bro, didn’t take it, seemed ghey.

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    //////////Reply by vdieselfor20
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    @andre, pwned

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    //////////Reply by MattyC
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    @andre, I don’t why you can generalize a whole city from being uncool just because someone wears a loud obnoxious shirt

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    //////////Reply by Leland Scantlebury
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    @andre, I’m a native Portland and I’m sticking up for this shirt. I agree, it would be very scary if this shirt was a mass-marketed product or sold by some ‘hip’ t-shirt company. Instead, it comes from a shitty 24-hour diner in Portland which is often full of trannies and features a jukebox with a giant jesus on the cross above it, complete with a neon halo. It’s not a shirt you see more than twice a year, and frankly it’s from a place that embodies what makes Portland wonderful.
    We’re not in trouble yet, but certainly the day will come. Popularity ruins everything.

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    //////////Reply by Clara
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    @andre, portland’s fine, its always got reed college

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  2. Vladimir Nabokov
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Eugene Oregon is where its at.

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    //////////Reply by zanapplepie
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    @Vladimir Nabokov, did u mean where its “alt”.

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    //////////Reply by Super Awesome Guy
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    @zanapplepie, ‘hippie’

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    //////////Reply by zanapplepie
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    @Super Awesome Guy, oooooooooo

    //////////Reply by yes
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    @Vladimir Nabokov, good to know, going up at the end of the month.

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    //////////Reply by jonny peacocke
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    @yes, vladmir nabakoff author of book lolita master of englisch language

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    //////////Reply by ok ok
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    @Vladimir Nabokov, Thats what I was going to say. glad someone else thinks so.

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  3. og
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    before you wrote this it felt like we were all walking around in a cloud of blunt smoke.

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    //////////Reply by johannahfrances
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    @og, entry level,

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  4. jewtooth
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    this shitty cafe called the roxy has been selling these shitty fucking shirts for 10 fucking years now. I would like to slap that girl with my peen tho

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    //////////Reply by oooooh waddup
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    @jewtooth,

    yea that place is shitty, i visited and was told that was “THE” late night food place. suuuucked.

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    //////////Reply by Jesse'
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    @oooooh waddup,

    It’s the atmosphere dumbshit.

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    //////////Reply by jonnybitchslap
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    @jewtooth,

    they sent us out some nachos with rotten meat on it. like it didn’t give us food poisoning b/c it was so obv rotten we just walked out leaving only a 17% tip b/c the service was THAT BAD

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  5. abbt
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    try seattle. like a bigger seattle with a bigger ’scene’ and lots more shit to do.

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    //////////Reply by abbt
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    @abbt, *like a bigger portland

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    //////////Reply by NO
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    Yeah, go to Seattle.

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    //////////Reply by Super Awesome Guy
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    @NO, with more yuppies. Microsoft and Starbucks took Seattle’s soul.

  6. billy
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Nothin’ against Taylor Swift, but Portland FUCKING Oregon is one of the greatest cities of all time.

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    //////////Reply by swagga
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    @billy, LOLOLOLOLOL

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    //////////Reply by SilveroTellerson
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    @swagga, LOL

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    //////////Reply by skybeard
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    @billy,

    lmao

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    //////////Reply by Xx
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    @billy, YES!

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  7. Screamin Jay Hawkins
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Try Lawrence, Ks, an alt paradise where no one ever “leaves”, alts “stay authentic” when they graduate college and put their degrees “to use” by working in vegan cafes and “starting a band”

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    //////////Reply by 555
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    @Screamin Jay Hawkins,

    wtf this sounds like you trying to rock yourself back and forth telling yourself that your town in Kansas actually has some sort of value, but I doubt it bro.

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    //////////Reply by SOFTWARE
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    @555, u r gay
    lawrence is gay

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    //////////Reply by caves
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    @Screamin Jay Hawkins, lawrence ks rulz

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  8. Posted September 15, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    in portland oregon everyone is drunk, down to fuck and wearing shirts more interesting than they are. Altopia.

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    //////////Reply by jewtooth
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    @emle, portland is full of unprotected sex and bicycles and everyone is down to get fuckeyed. why did i ever leave there

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    //////////Reply by snags
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    @jewtooth, fuckyeahaltcocks!

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    //////////Reply by ho
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    @jewtooth, yeah, but everyone in portland is ugly as sin. it’s sad but true. if a kid’s attractive, they move down to california. if a californian is ugly, they move up to portland where they fit in. it’s probably because only the truly most ugly got kicked out of europe, then the east coast, then the midwest, and finally had to go on the oregon trail.

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  9. KJK
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    no, Portland is still the most authentic city.

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    //////////Reply by Drew.
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    @KJK, Yeah, it’s still pretty authentic. Maybe not THE most, but it’s up there.

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  10. S.T.V.X.
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Portland is sometimes known as PDX. That’s pronounced Pee Dicks. Nice name.

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    //////////Reply by ash
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    @S.T.V.X., Nobody pronounces it like that. stfu

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  11. TT
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Olympia WA is where its at. Definitely the most authentic city on earth. The PNW is pretty alt in general though.

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    //////////Reply by b4hc
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    @TT, trueeeee, ‘my heart’ is in olympia. seriously the most alt/<3 city.

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  12. nate.hrbnd
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    portland > ur ‘bro ass city’

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  13. Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Nobody from Portland actually wears that stupid shit.

    Portland is great.

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    //////////Reply by sam
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    @Jesse’, same as no one FROM Austin wears that shirt.

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    //////////Reply by EFF G.Gillies
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    @sam, then how comes when you walk around ATX you see keep austin weird bumper stickers on cars w/ texas tags? LOL @ austin. just wanna “be weird” and go to “waterloo” and get my “whole foods hq is here” on… vote kinky y’all.

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    //////////Reply by anonymous
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    @EFF G.Gillies, he ain’t kinky he’s my governor…along with ‘bio-willie nelson’

    //////////Reply by T
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    @Jesse’, no one from Portland actually wears that shirt and takes it seriously.
    She was wearing that shirt because someone handed it to her and told her to put it on as a joke. She is from Portland. The shirt was purchased at the Roxy 4 years ago, and hasn’t been worn because, obviously, it’s a dumb shirt. So she is neither a) a tourist or b) actually thinking she is “cool” for wearing that shirt, so this article has absolutely no point whatsoever. Sorry.
    Everyone, get over it.

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    //////////Reply by jewtooth
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    @T, jesus, I fucking hate you. see what i did there???

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  14. Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    There’s a reason we’re the most depressed city, we constantly are struggling with our authenticity.

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  15. crystal
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    i am originally from eugene, so everyone i know and their mom moved to portland. don’t get me wrong it’s a beautiful city, but i get kinda pissed when people assume that just because i’m from oregon that means i lived in the one city their bandmates want to up and move to. i move to LA so i wouldn’t have to work in a strip club/bookstore/bistro/whole foods. i traded good a microbrew selection for the possibility of seeing non-caucasians on occasion. it was worth it.

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    //////////Reply by nate.hrbnd
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    @crystal, u sound ‘fucking stupid’

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    //////////Reply by crystal
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    @nate.hrbnd, yeah maybe i shouldn’t have tried to comment on my phone. whatevs

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    //////////Reply by SilveroTellerson
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    @crystal, i kno. h8 th@

    //////////Reply by johannahfrances
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    @nate.hrbnd, hear hear.

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    //////////Reply by abdul
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    @crystal, i don’t think you sound stupid, i agree about non-caucasians

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  16. Myth
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    I think so.

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  17. Posted September 15, 2009 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    damn

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  18. l00kin4meaningy'all
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    omaha, ne. virtually unknown, except by ‘real’ authentic alts. The alts never leave, and neither do the alts coming in. It’s ‘pure’. so.. portland is irrelevant.

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    //////////Reply by 555
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    @l00kin4meaningy’all,

    once again, u r a fag trying to pretend that your dumb ass mid American city is worth something by trying to make other people believe it. but we don’t. omaha is about as good as saddle creek and 311. fucking fuck bro, move somewhere awesome like NYC.

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    //////////Reply by l00kin4meaningy'all
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    @555, I wish you weren’t so ‘ghey’ and trying to prove some lame point via hippsies runoffs.

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  19. Barbie-Shrimp
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Move to Australia. The official shirt reads “Fuck off, we’re full”.
    But that only applies to posers…all Alts excepted.

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    //////////Reply by michael
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    @Barbie-Shrimp, that shirt is about immigrants. its not tongue in cheek, just ignorant.

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    //////////Reply by Barbie-Shrimp
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    @michael, CORRECTION: That shirt is abt MNSTRM immigrants.
    The shirt’s ignorance has prejudice within itself.
    ie. We’re only “full” if you’re a MNSTRMR – if you’ve got something Alty and Hip to offer, “come on in”.

    It also has an underlying subtext about deportation….
    If you don’t “get” Alt culture maybe you should leave and make room for someone “less retarded”.

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    //////////Reply by michael
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    @Barbie-Shrimp, sorry, im not hip enough and havent a clue what you mean when you mention MNSTRM and talk in letters and not words. but iv just come from that part of the world and the uproar was when it was being worn on australia day with more than a hint of nationalistic fervour which was just out and out racism. NO ONE looked at it and thought it was about skinny jeans wearing moustache sporting idiots. a mere google search of offending tshirt should put you right.

    //////////Reply by Barbie-Shrimp
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    @michael, why even bother reading this blog?!
    a mere google search of sarcasm should “put you right”

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    //////////Reply by altina
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    @Barbie-Shrimp, I hate you

  20. Stefani
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Portland is still Portland.. Ive only seen a few of those shirts around. Take a trip down to Hawthorne st in portland and you will see our uniqueness at the very finest.

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    //////////Reply by nooo
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    @Stefani, gay, Hawthorne street is the biggest tourist trap in the city, what are you talking about

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    //////////Reply by DAT ASS
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    nooooo, NW 23rd is the biggest tourist trap.

    stop living on the eastside and being poor plz

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    //////////Reply by bitch
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    @DAT ASS, still gay @ stefani

    //////////Reply by fggt #113
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    @nooo, w0rd Hawthorne is teh ghey i would argue that carles has it semiright

    PDX/Seattle/SF~OAK are all the alternating alt hubs of the best coast where all the losers from small towns like Redding, Lodi, Lebanon, Fernley, Boise, and Wenatchee FUICKING Washington migrate to alt it up and ‘be more authentic’
    these hubs are analogous to the hot spot that formed the Hawai’ian islands

    NYC is the right coast’s ver of these cuz its s000000 k3wl and boston and philly sux cock

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  21. THE REAL ANDREW W.K.
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    DETROIT WILL BE THE ‘ALTEST’ CITY BY 2019

    MARK THESE WORDS

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    //////////Reply by Joanna
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    fact.

    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K.,

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    //////////Reply by yes
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., took a trip up to see my fellow blipster deonta. crazy all night party in an abandoned building, new types of music.

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    //////////Reply by sie
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., FUCK YES 313. REPRESENTIN’ CCS FUTURE ALT NATION.

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    //////////Reply by bob dobbs
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    @sie, CCS is fanfuckingtastic. wanted to transfer there from u of m art&design, dropped out instead :(
    keep representin, got mad love for detroit :)

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    //////////Reply by yvynyl
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., when you can buy a house there for $500 (rumor) then, shit yeah it’s alt. Maybe the alt-est.

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    //////////Reply by Paul
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    @yvynyl, That ain’t no rumor. A buddy o’ mine just bought a 4-bdrm house in Dearborn Heights for $3,100. Plus, the UFO Factory in Eastern Market is always putting on baller noise shows–it just sucks a little when Wolf Eyes starts to play their Jock-Noise set.

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    //////////Reply by b
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    @Paul,
    Hell yes and real techno is from detroit and still has a pretty dope underground scene. Definitely future alt capital…

    //////////Reply by Ja3on
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    @Paul, Idiot. Calling Wolf Eyes ‘Jock Noise’ proves your cluelessness and ‘un-altness’.

    //////////Reply by Paul
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    @Paul, Wolf Eyes is totally Jock Noise:) Dilloway was right to leave.

    //////////Reply by fuck it
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    @Paul,

    ADULT.

    //////////Reply by emle
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., s0000 true. have been sayin that foreverrrrr. gonns open coffee shop/ microbrewery/ art gallery/ record store and like exist in an authentic way, after leaving portland. and andrew wk, you can open a meaningful venue where alts can experience something real. c u all there/.

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    //////////Reply by johannahfrances
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., but it’s soo cold in the D. how da fuck are they ‘pose to keep peace?

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    //////////Reply by johannahfrances
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    @THE REAL ANDREW W.K., its so collllld in the D. how da fuck are they ‘pose to keep peace.

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  22. DamianMarleyRasta69
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    Love Portland! Had a gig out there a couple years ago in my now-defunct band The Rollers. It’s a really great place that somehow manages to keep a bohemian spirit alive — much more than you can say for New York or Chicago (sell outs! :0)

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    //////////Reply by jonnybitchslap
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    @DamianMarleyRasta69,

    this is how u know portland is over look at this douche why did he name drop his band if they’re dead

    srsly i recently left pdx in order to become a ruralt and it was b/c of ppl like this w/ shitty personal marketing strategies

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    //////////Reply by jonnybitchslap
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    @jonnybitchslap,

    also i forgot 2 use the phrase “faux-amiable” 2 sound credible pls pretend i did

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    //////////Reply by no fish today
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    @jonnybitchslap, lol

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    //////////Reply by jewtooth
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    @DamianMarleyRasta69, your band was hella ghey. DIE

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    //////////Reply by DamianMarleyRasta69
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    @jewtooth, Have you heard of us? :) Still got an old EP that I can put up for DL if you’re interested

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  23. brotoni
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    from portland. its still ‘authentic.’ but here at the ‘university’ of oregon, the alt scene is being ‘ruined’ by relevant californians.

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    //////////Reply by meredith
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    @brotoni, fuck off. I was PAID by the state of Oregon to come from California to your university back in ‘00 and I never left. I live here, love, and make my life here. It doesn’t make a difference that I was raised in California.

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    //////////Reply by Super Awesome Guy
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    @meredith, U of O is ruined by hippies.

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    //////////Reply by Leeez
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    @brotoni, Californians: they fcking ruin everything in OR.

    +they are always irrelevant. period.

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  24. mainstreamer
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    portland has a long way to go before it loses its altness, the entire east side still has some poor neighborhoods left to be evicted (via gentrification)

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  25. nondairy
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    nvr growing up. alts nvr die.

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  26. xurtis
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    all in all portland still has the most alts for any other city its size plus it actually practices ‘progressive’ politics unlike the oh so corporate seattle.

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  27. SilveroTellerson
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    one day we’re gonna live in paris, i promise, i’m on it.

    when i’m bringing in the money/grow up, i want 2 live in noo yawk,

    psychic city,
    voodoo city,
    heartbreak city,
    paradise city
    where the grass is green and the girls r pretty.
    funk city,
    suffragette city,
    erotic city,
    sin city,
    dream city,
    “the city (teenagers remix)” by lo-fi fnk

    search “city” in ur iTunes yall!

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    //////////Reply by hey anony anony
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    @SilveroTellerson, new york city cops? (NVR 4GET)

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  28. 555
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    ‘I’m checking them out, I’m checking them out
    I got it figured out, I got it figured out
    There’s good points and bad points
    But it all works out
    I’m a little freaked out
    Find a city
    Find myself a city to live in, yall’

    -David and the Talk Heads

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    //////////Reply by sarahrightnow
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    @555, thanks :)

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    //////////Reply by bbb
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    @555, Simply beautiful…

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    //////////Reply by hey anony anony
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    @555, whos ur city? (via richard flo rida)

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  29. meaux (mo)
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    live in portland. like it and h8 it. people are alt but dumb. alt stuff to do but everyone is POOR. the newsies here are shitty [via Portland Mercury and Willy Week]. Dan Savage is ‘the man’ tho but he lives in Seattle. he comes here to finish his writings so i guess he thinks its alt-er. easy to ‘get some’ but the girls are ‘just ok.’ feel like i have fun but am not doing anything ‘meaningful’ [via manic-depressed]. i had an authentic alt-grrrrl. now i have a mainstream ‘girl’ who is a lot better [via paradox].

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    //////////Reply by vdieselfor20
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    @meaux (mo), NEED TO PREFACE UR MINI AUTO-BIO W/ ‘TIME TO GET VULNZ’

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  30. gimmebenzos
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 3:05 am | Permalink

    PeeDiX- fun to visit, not to live. everything is all spread out and shit. its always cloudy. good city for local celeb strippers, washed up sk8rs, junkies or a combo!

    Norcal 4 life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  31. aaron
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 5:12 am | Permalink

    soooo many hawt alt fggts in Portland nowadays…boyz with cutoffs so tight that their dick outlines show. now that’s what i call AUTHENTIC [via ghey]

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    //////////Reply by jewtooth
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    @aaron, in my spare time i enjoy tracing the veins of my cock onto a connect the dots from pee-wees playhouse. so authentic my dick went soft…

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  32. newarkhipsters
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    keepnewarkalt

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    //////////Reply by corybooker
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    @newarkhipsters, keepnwkblack. crack and poverty in 2k10?

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  33. jimothy
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    ann arbor

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    //////////Reply by Paul
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    @jimothy, Fuck that, Ypsi is ten times as alt as A2

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    //////////Reply by toomanynegros in 313
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    @Paul, fuck that, Toledo is ten times as alt as LANTI

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    //////////Reply by Paul
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    @toomanynegros in 313, yeh, maybe Glass city was more alt at some point, but there’s a lot more stripmallbros there… And there’s a Chili’s right next to Rte. 23 in Ypsi

  34. a.
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    around where i live, this catch-phrase is often found on t-shirts and flyers for parties: “brooklyn — we go hard.”

    it sucks here.

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    //////////Reply by fggt #113
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    @a., the douche factor is just a mirror to your soul

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    //////////Reply by a.
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    @fggt #113, that doesn’t make any sense you fuck.

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  35. contra-core
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    keep west creek, nj alt

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  36. thebirdlady
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    You want a charming music scene, excellent organic/vegan dining options and an authentic alternative community and economy then check out Tucson, AZ. They have Teeshirts in response to Austin, but they are hand silk-screened at BBQs and say, “Keep Tucson Shitty”, with shitty in the font of “the Thing” a nearby roadside attraction that is a mummified head or something.

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  37. alex
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    you should really learn to spell words properly.

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  38. Ab
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    madison

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    //////////Reply by Megan
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    @Ab, exactly what i was going to write.

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    //////////Reply by Megan
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    @Ab, except only during times the UW is NOT in session, the students suck.

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    //////////Reply by @--,-'-----
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    barely a music scene to speak of.
    it would take less than 2 months to be totally bored with that town.

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    //////////Reply by Megan
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    @@–,-’—–, you can find good music if you look for it. and the town is certainly ‘authentic’, but, like i said – good music isn’t *that* hard to find. maybe you need to know people… i’m definitely not bored with it.

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    //////////Reply by @--,-'-----
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    just feel like compared to mpls, it’s srsly lacking

  39. Spoon
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Fuck being Vegan crl wtf

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  40. Paul
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Surprised no one’s brought up Athens, GA yet…

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    //////////Reply by jvac
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    @Paul, yeh athens is super alt-thentic (via the south & b-52s). but i’m not sure if people are ‘ironic’ enough there. i think hro readers would feel more at home in Little 5 Points in atlanta.

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    //////////Reply by Paul
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    @jvac, Totes. No love for O’ Montreal and the Eleph6 bros…

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    //////////Reply by EFF G.Gillies
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    @Paul, i would love 0′mont 284% moar if they did commercials for chili’s

  41. chorles
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    ‘i went 2 portland fucking oregon n all i got was this inauthentic t shirt’

    -a shirt

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  42. jeremiah james
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    PDX is the worst. a bunch a kewl kids assuming they’re relevant because they’re in PDX. they have ‘menomena’ who refuse to make new music, and ‘yacht’ who refuse to make good music. girls are fattie highwasted know nothings and dudes are just uggos. boo. i moved back to vegas for the drugs, tunes, and skinny teens.

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    //////////Reply by Super Awesome Guy
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    @jeremiah james, well, you got the fattie’s part correct.

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  43. Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    What about Birmingham AL

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  44. Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    What about Birmingham AL?

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    //////////Reply by no fish today
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    @Dmagoku, what about it

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    //////////Reply by Dmagoku
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    @no fish today, authentic enought for this thread?

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  45. jonnybitchslap
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    its the cali4nians falt

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  46. grant golland
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    SAAAAAANNNNNNNTTTTTTAAAAA CCCCRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZ

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    //////////Reply by no fish today
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    @grant golland, tru chillwave

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  47. ash
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    I hope this has already been pointed out but that shirt is from a diner, and they’ve been making/selling them for 10 years. It is certainly not a sign of anything new.
    Portland is the same as it’s always been, except for a minor influx of assholes from LA moving there. But they don’t last long and eventually go back home. Thank god. It’s just as alt-topia as ever, maybe more so.

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  48. @--,-'-----
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    heard they have good heroin in portland and everyone sleeps around

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    //////////Reply by cowboy butts
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    @@–,-’—–,

    mmmmmmm……city of roses, alcoholics, and pretentious art fags. miss it so bad :(

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  49. lykk
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    hold up portland, ima let you finish, but wicky park (chicago) is the altest city of the year

    OF THE YEAR

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    //////////Reply by no fish today
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    @lykk, too many blackies in chi; want to feel urban alt but safe too, you know

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    //////////Reply by Double Negative
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    @no fish today,

    Wack. Transplant. Real Chicagoans look down on you anyway. Stay where you are.

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    //////////Reply by no fish today
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    @Double Negative, don’t plan leaving SF, ‘cept to go to p4k festival, the best

    //////////Reply by g
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    @lykk, LOL wicker park is a second wrigleyville now

    wicker park: big in 2k6?

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    //////////Reply by lykk
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    @g, i choose to ignore all the ‘transplants’ and ‘fucking assholes’ that moved in. 2k6 4evr

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  50. can'tweallgetalong
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    pure fact is that everyone wants to represent their own city in some way. the great thing about that is we all have something to offer when trying to enhance the place we live. portland is a nice place located in the northwest, tuscon is located in the southwest and same with austin. we are all from/live in different areas and it is respectable enough that we improve the areas we are from to make them what we want, rather than move other places.

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    //////////Reply by (p)ossum
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    @can’tweallgetalong,

    i rly like u <3

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  51. FRESNAHBR0
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    THE S1CKEST LESSER KNOWN ALTOPIA IS THIS CHILL PLACE IN CALI CALLED FRSNO, CA! WEVE G0T A GR8 FCKING STRIP MALL CLLED RIVERPARK WITH HUGE-ASS STORES. OTHER THAN ‘THE BLACKS’, WRE SINGLEHANDEDLY RESPONSIBLE 4 THE PASSIBG OF PROP8. U CAN BLEND IN HERE BY WARING POPULAR BRANDS LIKE TAPOUT, AFFLICTION, OR VOLCOm. BEST PLACE 2 GET ‘FREAKY HUGE’ CUZ OF SUM SICK GYM OFFERINGS. MIGHT WANA BRING THE S1CKEST TRUCK U OWN SO U CAN GET TUGZ FROM BITCHES WITH FAKE TANS, BLONDE HAIR AND ED HARDY CAPS. K LATER.

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    //////////Reply by gentleman
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    @FRESNAHBR0, SWISH!

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  52. Posted September 16, 2009 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    I went to portland this summer. Got drunk with the “schwilly” (homeless) kids. Went to Superfest (Starfucker/Guidance Counselor/everyotherawesomeportlandband) rlly fckd up, hugged the guy running it. Even saw WHT FNG play at their house on the 4th o’ July. also I have a “cool dad” that was part of the early portland alt scene, bought an his old friends’ band’s album that was exclusively bout marijuana.

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  53. Leland Scantlebury
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    I’m a native Portland and I’m sticking up for this shirt. I agree, it would be very scary if this shirt was a mass-marketed product or sold by some ‘hip’ t-shirt company. Instead, it comes from a shitty 24-hour diner in Portland which is often full of trannies and features a jukebox with a giant jesus on the cross above it, complete with a neon halo. It’s not a shirt you see more than twice a year, and frankly it’s from a place that embodies what makes Portland wonderful.
    We’re not in trouble yet, but certainly the day will come. Popularity ruins everything.

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  54. no fish today
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    want an alt city with smart girls, lots cocaine, n good seafood

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    //////////Reply by jewtooth
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    @no fish today, thats pdx, but full of rad skanks nsted of smart girls

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  55. jeezy
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    she just puttin on for her city

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  56. darylhofmann23@hotma
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    keep saskatoon alt

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  57. seattle
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Portland is the fag version of Seattle. (via its gheyness)

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  58. Dirty Harry
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    That T-shirt’s been around longer than most of you have even lived here.
    Don’t like it? Go back to California.

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  59. larry
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    what does the alt world think of pittsburgh?
    if i post that question would anyone answer?
    pittsburgh seems like a ’somewhat famous’ city with a ‘recognizable brand’…?

    what does the alt world think of youngstown?

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    //////////Reply by chong
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    @larry, south side of pitt is the only decent place

    youngstown? i saw gil mantera play ther once

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    //////////Reply by Brozac
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    @larry, y0ungstown is a shithole. Know sum kewl alts from there [via I'm gonna leave this town and have a better life...in Columbus.]

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  60. tyler
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    fuck u

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  61. toomanynegros in 313
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    AKRON OHIO

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    //////////Reply by johannahfrances
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    @toomanynegros in 313, OHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIOOOO!

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  62. SoBroUdontEvenKnow
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 2:08 am | Permalink

    Sandy Eggo is the altest city because we get all the bands that tour L.A., but since there aren’t enough alts here to buy all the tickets, the shows are always intimate and meaningful. We purposely make sure that bands like Wavves get rave reviews on pitch4k so that people think our music scene is weak and don’t move here to be authentic. You fggts from bkln who use the term ‘bro’ don’t even know what it means. You’re not a bro unless you have at least 16 tattoos, a bro-ho with fakies, a backwards hat made by a bro-core brand like Affliction and an F-250 with the cab ten feet in the air. Start using the term correctly please, Carles.

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    //////////Reply by ActLikeUBro
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    @SoBroUdontEvenKnow, fellate me.

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    //////////Reply by yera
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    @SoBroUdontEvenKnow, dude anything south of l.a. sucks. san diego is full of eww scenesters. the only cool places in so cal are bev/hollywood hills and parts near downtown.

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    //////////Reply by SoBroUdontEvenKnow
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    @yera, haha, eww scenesters, truth.

    North County 4 lyfe. You can keep Hell City.

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  63. love portland
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Portland: home of the alternative, weird, musically inclined, beer, food, bike friendly dog loven and crafty peeps. I think Austin copied Portland’s saying though… Keep Portland Weird has been around for years. If you think it’s uncool, well you live where?

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  64. nicktalife
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    toured most of the US this summer in a “punk band” that also plays “noise shows”… Bloomington IN is possibly the altest small city. Places like Santa Cruz, Olympia, etc. are too full of old hippies / wallowing in their altness to be truly alt. PDX is indeed getting blown out but still alt as fuck due to its punkness.

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  65. assy
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    portland sux mad dix

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  66. Panda
    Posted September 18, 2009 at 5:17 am | Permalink

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Portland does not need to be alt, alt needs to be Portland. Portland is very prepared. The Popinski Brothers run this show. DRINK YOUR LIVES AWAY! Ah ha ha! Ah ha ha! Ah ha ha ha!

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  67. Anna
    Posted September 18, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Salt Lake City, Utah has an entry-leveler shirt that says “SL,UT”

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    //////////Reply by Scrambled Fetus
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    @Anna,

    If by entry-leveler, you really mean longboarding potheads and/or x96-listening, try-too-hard-to-be-not-Mormon post White Trash bros who probably have a story about hanging out with Bert McCracken, then yeah.

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  68. Spad Thatcher
    Posted September 18, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    i go 2 a liberal alts school in portland oregon
    portland is in trouble
    u cant be cool and young cuz there are laws thattt make it pretty hard 4 u to get in2 shows if u r not 21. sombody 4rom a state w/ alkyhol should send some 2 the poor kids in portland so we can get dranked up.

    thanks

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  69. youresoironic
    Posted September 19, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    jesus fucking christ. i can’t believe i followed some facebook link to this blog. this is some of the most depressing shit i’ve ever seen.

    alternative “brand” ???
    alternative???
    brand???

    how about authentic fucking life.

    i’m born and raised. 90% of these pretentious txting hipster fucks are transplants who are insecure about being transplants and overcompensating. anyone (i mean ne1 lolz) remember when alberta was a cruising strip and had several successful black owned businesses?

    no, because you fucks ran them out of their own neighborhood. you racist asshats don’t even know you’re racist but you are systematically destroying inner n/ne portland.

    then, you have the nerve to think you’re cooler and better than other people because you hang out at some hellhole like tube?

    fuck you and go back to the midwest, southern cal, or wherever the fuck you came from.

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    //////////Reply by blipster
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    @youresoironic, chillllll bro, why so serious?

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    //////////Reply by internet god champio
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    @blipster, dont think he ‘gets it’

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  70. JonathanS
    Posted September 19, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I’m a Portland native and as many people have already says, it comes from a local 24 hour diner owned by a drag queen in downtown Portland. It is a rather famous spot, though, and makes for a definite Portland landmark with it’s tacky interior and montage to the “golden days” of drag queendom. Haha. Portland definitely hasn’t lost its cred.

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  71. ab
    Posted September 21, 2009 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    ble,ble,ble,ble,ble,tshirt

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  72. h@y
    Posted September 21, 2009 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    @FRESNAHBR0

    I live in fresno too

    Thought I was the only one

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  73. alphabetsoup
    Posted September 21, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    About the “Keep Austin Weird” shirt:

    80 miles away there is San Antonio’s “Keep San Antonio Lame” t-shirt. I forget who makes it. It’s a pretty hip local company. Would you rather be lame or alt?

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  74. dtlb
    Posted September 30, 2009 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    the roxys where its at. fucking eat a few of their cheesy fries in the midst of the glamor district and then fucking complain. that shirt is JUST.

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  75. jake
    Posted October 1, 2009 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    is portland less “jock fratdude broski” than bawwstin is?

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  76. Steve
    Posted November 4, 2009 at 2:49 am | Permalink

    been living in east Portland my whole life. I witnessed the hippie granola scene shift into the alt hipster music obsessed demographic we have now. what i love about my town is that regardless of how many people from LA talk about how bad they wish they could live here and work at a coffee shop/ufix it bike shop, we just dont give a fuck. In fact the more people who feel the need to popularize the unpopular, the less “Jonny bicycle” who rides a fixie to work with a leather bound 1940’s vintage bag slung around his neck cares about it. We don’t care if people see us as a niche city with a easily digestible mantra of music, beer and art. Its not our THING, its just what people who happen to be living in the fucking Willamette valley like to fucking do. The fact that a girl wears a shirt that says Portland fucking Oregon doesn’t mean anything. I’m not “scared” of Portland changing. applying a social image to a collection of people is just stupid and should be left to US Weekly. Stop freaking compartmentalizing everything. god damn. so I saw Yacht at Backspace last night then sat out on hawthorne till three drinking overpriced beer and eating food bought from a quirky food cart playing equally quirky music, so what. I didn’t do it for the image, or to further some forced idea of what Portland should be like. Its what I happen to enjoy. Not everything is a fucking meme.

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  77. Posted November 4, 2009 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    has no one seen the ‘keep portland weird’ shirt?

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  78. Lana
    Posted November 6, 2009 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Des Moines, IA! Hell yeah. we have a company called smash that everyone loves. http://www.thesmashsite.com/

    amazing.

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