Sup guys. We’re the Pavements– a band from back before the pre-Ben Gibbard era, before modern indie distribution channels existed. We play alt rock. The alt-est of 1990s alt rock. Guitars. Drums. Guy with a dopey voice. Earnest Lyrics. Yelling. I’m sure you’ve heard bands that sound like us, but these days our sound isn’t always ‘in.’ Fortunately we’re coming back and hitting the indie rock festival circuit. It is highly lucrative to unretire, because people will pay u a lot of money 2 reconnect with ur brand.
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Does n e 1 know what Pavement sounds like?
I have been hearing tons of ‘rumblings’ about them, but don’t really know much about them. Think that I might be ‘too young’ for them, but maybe if I give them a shot, I will have a better historical appreciation for indie music + alt culture.
Just found a Pavement music video for ‘Cut Your Hair.’
I think it sounds okay, but sorta like traveling back in time with a time machine to an era that seems chill in an ‘ironic’ kind of way. Maybe the 1990s are officially the new 1980s.
Maybe Pavement is representative of ‘how easy’ it was to be alt in the 1990s, enabling purists 2 glorify that era since every1 is alt in the 2k10s. Maybe if you get into Pavement in the 2k10s, you are double alt / not very alt at all.
They seem like the traditional image of a ‘band.’ Some bros who love to play music together, being a little bit zany, loving life.
The Pavement effect sorta reminds me of Pete & Pete, a Nickelodeon kids show that every1 claims was ‘really funny’ and that they were ’super into’ during the 1990s. It seems impossible to believe that any1 had a critical mind back then, like we could really differentiate between TV shows.
Power Rangers = Pete & Pete = R U Afraid of the Dark = vintage memes from the past that we can use 2 ‘connect’ with other ppl
Feel like we were trapped in front of the TV, watching mediocre tween programming before it was perfected [via Hannah Montana], but for some reason Pete & Pete was a ‘gem.’
Maybe we just want to go back in time and listen to music that sounds like the Pete & Pete theme song over and over again.
Can’t believe the 90s are coming back ’so hard.’
Just watched another Pavement video, and it was really ‘honky.’ Like some sort of wedding reception band, or maybe a team of dads/high school teachers who performed for the kids at the talent show.
Just watched another one. Seemed mediocre, like a band that would get a lot of buzz that I would choose to neglect these days because it wasn’t lofi/electro/chillwave enough for me.
Wonder why Pavement ‘came out of retirement.’ Do they ‘love the music’, or do they just see a great market to exploit? Maybe they had to wait for their core audience to mature and generate enough annual income to spend on their albums/live shows.
Can’t believe they are a Coachella headliner. Wonder if that is fair to new buzzbands who worked so hard over the past 5 years.
Should old alt bands be ‘grandfathered’ into credibility, or should the have to pass the same tests that new bands have 2?
Is Pavement ‘overrated’ bc they didn’t have to compete with tons of alt/indie bands in the modern world?
Is it alt to embrace the Pavement comeback? If I embrace Pavement, am I turning my back on the state of the modern mp3sphere?
If you are an older alt, is Pavement ur last chance to reconnect with ur past?
Should tweens embrace Pavement fever?
Does n e 1 know what Pavement sounds like, and why I should appreciate them?
Is Nirvana really that influencial?
Would yall rather be alt in the 1990s, 2k10s, or the 1300s?
Should Pavement play a 3 month residency at a Las Vegas Casino?
Is Pavement the AnCo of the 1990s?
Is going 2 a Pavement show kinda like traveling back in time in an alt time machine?
What vintage band do yall want 2 ‘come out of retirement’?
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//////////Reply by kevbro
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
@kevbro,
cool i finally made it.
feelin good.
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//////////Reply by white blipster
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 3:27 pm
@kevbro, way to go kevbro…thought this was my time to shine (via carrie/the animal blood collective)
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//////////Reply by kevbro
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
@white blipster,
thanks bro
maybe next time you will have the glory of ‘first’…
kinda sucks tho because i don’t rly like pavement at all
//////////Reply by dcts
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 5:22 am
@philycee
its fuckin box elder lametard.
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//////////Reply by HOMOSAPIEN_FUCK
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
@kevbro, Prolly jus gonna listen to Beastie Boys!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/threelegsoman#p/u/674/raU42sjn8OA
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//////////Reply by kevbro
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am
@HOMOSAPIEN_FUCK,
feel like someone sent AIDs in a box
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//////////Reply by philycee
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 5:06 am
@kevbro,
‘good’/influential. why? BECAUSE EVRY1 N THEIR MOTHER COVERS BOX ELDERS. box elders is also the name of a movie. also, every one involved in these fuckin projects were like 8 when pavement became “known”. GO FUCK A LONGHORN
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usually you do more research.
this time you failed to realize Malkmus is still an alt-bro and is still an active vet in the scene.
see this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OWOvDdK9AA
also you failed to see his importance in the alt-cyclone band “Silver Jews”
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thx 4 the pete and pete theme song
made this post really meaningful for me
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//////////Reply by HJ
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
@mtvzach,
totally agree luved this post
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ok yeah, i think you’re kind of missing the point.
Pavement is, by their own standards, supposed to be the most non-descript band ever. They are called Pavement. They’re supposed to be like something you see every day and literally walk on but don’t especially notice. I think their name is also supposed to be a reference to the “underground rock”/”above-ground rock” distinction that was big in the 90s, with them being “ground rock.” But though their sound is that of a “traditional rock band,” the semantic content of the songs is usually really, really weird and suggests to me a very strange and sometimes “really stoned” worldview. Even look at their chronology and it begins to look like a very meta-joke about indie rock. “Our first album will be lo-fi and mysterious, then we will release a ‘mainstream rock album’ with a single about how we are/are not sellouts. Then we will release an 18 song double album that is literally called ‘wowee zowee’ (jesus christ the indie band much?). We will wrap up our careers by ‘brightening the corners’ of the earth yet untainted by pavement/our insane philosophy. and then for contractual reasons will be forced to release a final album which we will call ‘terror twilight’ and totally not even try on, to the extent that our record label forces us to use a big name producer, just to ‘cement’ our reputation as normal, slack-offy kind of guys even though in truth, we are probably really gnarly.
This all being said, I should out myself as being a huge Pavvement fan. Like, they are easily my favorite band. I would consider myself to be a Malkmusian scholar even. I am personally very excited for their reunion.
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//////////Reply by eggs
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
@grant golland, I think you might be missing the point. Totally picked the wrong venue to post your grad school dissertation on Pavement. Pavement def seem like chill bros that I would like to chill with, though.
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//////////Reply by grant golland
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
@eggs, :(
communication is not cool with you :(
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//////////Reply by jb
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
@eggs
fail
//////////Reply by mk
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
@grant golland, hey man tl;dr
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//////////Reply by Pvmntsucks
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:07 am
@grant golland,
I can’t believe pavement is someone’s fav band. Pathetic. This was a terrible band to begin with that wanted to get some of the money grunge bands were generating at that time, but saw that grunge could be too “heavy” to reach a very broader audience, so they decided to record something that sounded alternative, like grunge bands did, taking all the power real grunge bands had. It’s true that lot of those grunge bands ended up recording softer, insipid albums, since they all became money bitches, but payment was a money bitch since day 1. Happy music for stupid adolescents that wanted to listen to something that was mainstream but label as alt, to be cool. All the alt movement of the 90s is just pathetic. Pavement doesn’t belong to the first wave of grunge/alt music, so by definition, they suck. One of the copycats of the 90s. They were your typical “let’s jump on this train” band, that I’m sure never recorded a demo before their first album (and if they had a demo, they still suck and all that I’m saying applies). They just signed a contract and went for the LP. What is underground about that? They were always main streamers.
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//////////Reply by some chill bro
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
@Pvmntsucks, the pavements actually released a ton of EPs and singles before their ‘debut album.’ they started in ‘89 as a two project. never signed to a major label even though they were offered contracts several times. i don’t care if you don’t like the band because you don’t like ‘their sound’ but don’t dislike them for the reasons you stated, because they are horrifically wrong and inaccurate. do some research before making such bold statements about a band you clearly know very little about. pce bros
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//////////Reply by BlueblueBlue
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 1:42 am
@some chill bro, actually tho for reels, seriously.
//////////Reply by chad
//////////Posted June 20th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
@Pvmntsucks, pavement recorded a plethora of music (with just guitars, no drums, they were a duo at first) even farther back than 88 that was eventually released in 93 as “westing (by musket and sextant)”. Their debut album “Slanted and Enchanted” (recorded literally the same time as Nirvana’s Nevermind! and released in April of 92) was recorded in a garage with mattresses against the walls so sound wouldn’t seep out and annoy the neighbors and so it wouldn’t echo. LoFi: yes! Because of the success of “grunge” they were offered many major label contracts which they turned down! and on the 2nd album “crooked rain, crooked rain” released in 94 (height of grunge?) they joked/made fun of the industry and their attempts to sign them and completely blasted the mainstream music industry and it’s attempt to sell whatever is “cool” and, you know, make money. Then proceeded to make a double LP in 95 called “Wowee Zowee!” and the music is reflexive of the title! Trying to ride the wave of alt rock in the 90’s? @Pvmntsucks you don’t like their music fine. Completely fine. You however clearly do not know what you’re talking about. Stephen Malkmus released his first solo record to start the new millennium and still makes records/indie records that sound like every other indie act, only thing is a lot of these acts – which are great – sound like HIM! maybe not old school Pavement but, they sound – again, litany – like HIM!
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do not want
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//////////Reply by Pavement? Really?
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
@ryan, yeah. Pavement is an awful band. I never understood the appeal. Super wimpy.
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//////////Reply by badpenny
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
@Pavement? Really?,
two parts of pavement songs:
(1) the parts that sound like weezer
(2) the parts where we wait until the weezer part starts again
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//////////Reply by broseph stalin
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
@badpenny, weezer formed in 1992, pavement formed in 1989. i am ‘confused’ by ur cmnt. weezers copied pavement, not ‘vice versa.’
generally agree with your opinions, however
<3 pavement since i was 12. Their track on the School House Rock compilation, "No More Kings", changed my life.
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Stephen Malkmus is a major babe.
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//////////Reply by stillnessisthememe
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
@eggs, <3 u (+ david berman)
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
@eggs, if by that u mean he’s a woman, then maybe
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I h8 pavement. Not enuff electro or disco beats.
I don’t get it ya’ll. Feel like an inauthentic alt.
I reely wish the Blood Brothers would make a comeback!!
Carles I kinda feel like ur the most important philosopher of the post-911 era. Lubbb u
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//////////Reply by gaudi
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
@ALTERNATIVITY,
agreeed, i love the BBs. such a good live show.
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//////////Reply by ALTERNATIVITY
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
@gaudi, have u heard the new jaguar love album? It’s pretty good!!
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pretty ’stoked’ to see The Pavements in concert next sept. should be ‘life-changing’. want to see archers of loaf reunite. dnt thnk they will
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//////////Reply by fatlatvian
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 1:44 am
@some chill bro, if the archers of loaf bros ever reunite I might wet myself (via being an old alt)
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memorable p0st crls
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pete+pete was probably the most alt children’s television program of all time: iggy pop, chris elliot, heather matarazbro, patty hearst (via symbibronese liber8ion), michael stipe of the REMs, michi trachtenberg as a lil alt pre-nicki minaj bootleg twitvid cover with the james van der beeks
“passengers will please refrain from killing my soul”
–stu the bus driver, to big pete, just sayin true things about adolescence/life
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Oh man I am so hard for this 90s comeback. Fuck everybody who disagrees.
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//////////Reply by Elle
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
@Spandrell, For realz bro, I have been dying for 2010 because that’s when it will have officially been 20 years since 1990, and everyone knows that fashion/art/music/television travel in cycles of 20 years.
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//////////Reply by AstroCandy
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
@Elle, just dj’ed a 90’s party a couple weekends ago here at my mainstream campus.
I feel like the 90’s already came and went again. where were you guys?
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//////////Reply by ModernBratfggt
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 5:22 am
@AstroCandy, How about go fuck your self
//////////Reply by Spandrell
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
@AstroCandy, ya ain’t seen shit yet mang
//////////Reply by smt
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
@AstroCandy, but where were the jncos?
//////////Reply by Brandon
//////////Posted March 8th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
@AstroCandy, you are way right. i thought the 90’s comeback came and went with the 2009 buzzband cycle. everybody in SD & LA was in on it. can’t speak for the other relevant coast.
//////////Reply by Preter
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:44 am
@Spdrell, Tru story. Miss U Psychedelic 90’s. Miss u relevant zany lyfestile choices.
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By all means, let us old ppl have pavement for ourselves…watching 18 yr olds with trndy shaydes head bobbing will just piss me/us off
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//////////Reply by pvmt totes sux yall
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
@Factor, heyyo old gyyyy: why iz u on here? seems depressing
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its there liveihood don’t judge it.
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If PaVVements was a new band today and p4K “reviewed” their album, what number would it get?
6.1 is my guess.
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//////////Reply by Bobert Cliff
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
@Brobi Wan Kenobi,
Pavement is like Radiohead and The Beatles for the Pitchforks, I don’t get your alt history speculation.
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//////////Reply by pvmt totes sux yall
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 pm
@Bobert Cliff, but Radiohead and the Beatles are rlly rlly good. Pvmnt, on the other hand, made some instantly forgettable “white-as-fuck” music that can be used as an antidote for “too much viagra in thiz dick”
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//////////Reply by yyaab
//////////Posted March 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
@pvmt totes sux yall, The Beatles were the whitest band in the world, even in the 60’s, with so many great bands around , they never knew what groove is. Radiohead is pretentious and boring.
Pavement wuz wut weezer/nurf herder/nada surf wanted to be. Feel like that carrot rope song wuz like U2’s kewl song “numb”. Didnt really rep the band correctly. U2 bros arent legit but they make good shitty tunes. Need to listen to “range life”. Need to become a pavement fan and not tell any 1 u just started.
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//////////Reply by Pvmntsucks
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
@exaltentpstindybro,
And you still be a loser, specially if you want to build some alt reputation. Pavement was played on MTV the WHOLE time sometime during the 90s. Three years after they stopped playing Paula Abdul, they started rotating Pavement. To put things in perspective, your comment is like a kid in 2020 that just heard for the first time the band “The Killers” saying: “I’ll say I was a fan of The Killers since I was 2 y.o. My reputation is going to be higher than the twin towers one on top of the other!”
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//////////Reply by Controversial
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 pm
@exaltentpstindybro, Weezer is and was WAY BETTER than Pavement in every way: music, albums, singles, artistry, look, videos, career, live, everything. They’re 100x more memorable, influential, and awesome (even tho sometimes/plenty of times they suck, esp. since first 2 albums) All Pavement has going for it is, for some unknown reason (READ: the previous generation didn’t embrace black/’good’ music and so wanted their bands “white-as-fuck”), the respect of SchreiberBro + other 30something white guyz w/ “an inflated sense of their musical expertise” + no interest in sex/beauty/not-sucking. Oh, and Pavement’s album titles were good, in an unwashed 90s “‘Slacker’ is totes a grate movie, bro” kind of way. Pvmnt sux
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//////////Reply by polecat
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
@Controversial, weezer’s music has been complete dogshit for about a decade now… pavement made some mid-to-high grade alt guitar jams for about a decade… don’t see how your bold claims can be supported? also, i disagree that schrieberbro ‘made’ pavement. also, all pavement album titles are superior to “blue album,” “green album,” and “red album.”
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//////////Reply by Controversial
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
@polecat, you’re right about the album titles being better. they were good at that. but name even 1 song that is as memorable/awesome as “say it ain’t so,” “buddy holly,” “only in dreams,” “undone,” pretty much all of pinkerton, on and on… weezer has sooo many good songs… i can’t think of even one pavement song that is classic. i’m being totally serious. rivers cuomo is such a better songwriter than malkmus that it’s not even funny. do you know how hard it is to write a song as catchy and sweet as “say it ain’t so”? honestly, rivers is right in the company of kurt as a songwriter, and you can’t say that about malkmus. creating “a nice lil mood,” having “a fun personality as a band” is not the same thing as writing and performing great songs
//////////Reply by Brandon
//////////Posted March 8th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
@Controversial, haha this must be stephen malkmus. u r so ironic. *wink*
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//////////Reply by chad
//////////Posted June 20th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
@Controversial, Pavements 2nd! album “crooked rain, crooked rain” (technically their 3rd if you count “westing: by musket and sextant” as an album the same way you might consider Nirvana’s Incesticide their 3rd album, not to mention Pavement’s Watery Domestic EP) came out on valentines day 94 a good 3 months or so before Weezer’s (who do kick ass, hello: Pinkerton!) debut album but yet Pavement are a Weezer rip-off band!? No, Stephen couldn’t sing (still can’t) and they always admitted to not being able to play their instruments and even said their early shows they couldn’t even hold a note together hence the title given to them: slacker rock. The falsetto ooh ooh harmonies and occasional off-beat weird zany music break-down were what Pavement were doing YEARS! before Weezer. Weezer has conversely said they were not only heavily influenced by Pavement but, oh oh wait for it, have said they blatantly out of love and respect RIP THEM OFF! Weezer even went out on a limb to appear in one of Pavements videos (painted soldiers) as respect and because the 2 bands were friends but Geffen wouldn’t allow Weezer to do it. Now I love Weezer but: they ripped off Pavement not vice versa.
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knapsack
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//////////Reply by fatlatvian
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 am
@raygun, miss u alias records
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//////////Reply by anost
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
@raygun,
knapsack was a goodie.
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//////////Reply by AstroCandy
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
@generk witty cmmnt, all the words in this band’s name make me never want to listen to them.
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//////////Reply by DayGlowwed
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
@generk witty cmmnt, they toured with the original line up this past fall
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crles this is why we all <3 u
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H8 u, Crls. <3 u, SM/Spiral Stairs.
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who is gorillaz/muse?
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lil pete is in a hippy jam band called jounce
http://www.myspace.com/jounce
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//////////Reply by Preter
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:48 am
@HJ, They r soundz like the Slip. Prolly not that good, tho. Thanxya.
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The Pavements sound like that band ‘Stephen Malkamus and The Jicks’ I think I might have seen at a festival b4, but shittier and with no broads. Dunno I think they’re on at the same time as Kid Cudi can’t decide what will be better 2 see on drugs.
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Pavement suck and all bands that sound like pavement also suck. end of story
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I like Pavement. And not because they are a “classic indie band” or because liking them seems “authentic” or something like that. I just like the music.
What do you think is the most authentic genre of music today? Electronica? Noise rock? Country?
Are there any bands that you like for reasons besides that it’s “cool” to like these bands?
Do you think it’s moronic to like music for anything besides what it sounds like?
Is listening to classical music/ jazz “cool”, since most other people in the tweenster/hipster generations don’t listen to that kind of music?
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//////////Reply by Nipslip
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
@Guhh, bro, tweens are the ‘target market’, not the ‘enemy’
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//////////Reply by Elle
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@Nipslip, uh, no. tweens don’t have disposable income. I do. therefore everyone should be catering to my demographic.
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//////////Reply by kevbro
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
@Elle,
tweens have parents dummy
dont u know about tickle me elmo?
u r so slow
//////////Reply by chilisfan
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:31 am
@Guhh, ‘Do you think it’s moronic to like music fhttp://books.google.com/books?id=8bvFIHE0u4kC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=that%27s+why+the+eagles+suck+chuck+klosterman&source=bl&ots=KNw1i9UlTG&sig=QxppT3aYhIIhouraDQMRS3JEfhQ&hl=en&ei=c0eOS9HpLoiwNq65raYN&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=eagles&f=falseor anything besides what it sounds like?’
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//////////Reply by Ear Dildo
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
@Guhh, 1st off, grate name, bro. 2nd off, i dont like how Pvmt ’sounds’ ‘at all.’ sounds like if ’somebody’s dad’ was 30 in the 90’s and had never listened to cool shit like led zeppelin, beatles, stones, hendrix, sly and the family stone, etc. and decided to form a band w/ loser “white-as-fuck” friends, get like ‘half-baked,’ and then shat out some ‘toe-tappin’” lil forgettable half-assed ‘pop’ ’songs’ + zany music videos. seems like we should ‘forget about’ pvmt
3rd, i love the strokes. they’re not ‘cool’ to like anymore. i like Kanye. not ‘cool’ to like him. etc.
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//////////Reply by obvioucity
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 pm
@Guhh, ‘classic’ + ‘indie band’ = oxymoron, obvs
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All my boys rock pavement no homo
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feel like not being “dead” in the 1300s was pretty alt
also, wood like 2 see Blues Bros get back together (via alt time machine)
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90’s is the new 80’s. isn’t that why everyone is wearing flannels, floral print babydoll dresses, acid wash jeans, scrunchies, and ugly catsuits? maybe i need a boobjob (via acceptable in the 90’s).
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//////////Reply by AstroCandy
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
@deathfromabove1999, don’t forget windbreaker. lots and lots of windbreaker.
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//////////Reply by kiss
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 am
@AstroCandy, please. they’re called anoraks.
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u sure called out all us pete n pete fans, u lil bastard
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gr8 post carles. i am 2 young 2 be into pavement and listened to their songs on a free music streaming service. don’t think i really ‘got it’ via not being part of the surrounding culture at the time.
ps is keenan and kel 2 mainstream to admit 2 liking?? never heard of pete & pete :(
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//////////Reply by chong
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 pm
@torbro y moi,
im a dude
hes a dude
shes a dude
we’re all dudes
hey
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//////////Reply by chilisfan
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
@torbro y moi, KENAN AND KEL: ORIGINAL BLIPSTERS?
who loves orange soda?
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//////////Reply by stillnessisthememe
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
@chilisfan, I DO I DO I DO-OOH
lori-beth denberg: original amappy protestor?
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//////////Reply by chilisfan
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
@stillnessisthememe, danny tamborelli, where are you now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Danny_Tamberelli.jpg
thx 4 sayin this crls!!!!! i have always thought pavement sucked ass and didnt get the hype. lol @ ‘honky’
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I once read a Thurston Moore article in which he said that if Sonic Youth had broken up and then had a reunion tour they would all be millionaires…I think that makes him super alt even though, admittedly, I can’t get into the Sonic Youths too much, no matter how hard I’ve tried over the years (kinda like the chillwave scene now) anyhoo…I’m 30 and startrd getting into Pavement in the early 00’s in a time when the ‘alt’ scene was up and coming, at least the NY based alt scene (via the Strokes) during the bourgeoning gentrification of all non-manhattan areas like Greenpoint and B.Burg…when the alts were enjoying Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and The Moon and Antarctica on CD’s still ( at least as I remember). I liked them, but more what they stood for and how they were like the George Washington of that current scene. After a while they grew on me though, but I’m still able to say that some of their music is straight up shit and Steve M. can/can’t sing at will and his ‘quirkyness’ gets old quite quickly. Long story short…their legacy is stronger than their contact, but is that so bad?
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//////////Reply by tragedy in toyland
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
@mikeyoe, dammit, you beat me to the sonic youth jokes. was gonna say ‘i wish the sonic youths would reunite.’ saw kim and thurston on 6th ave a couple weeks ago. think they hate being famous.
also, got so ‘fucking pissed’ when everyone liked the moon and antarctica, that album was the beginning of the shitty mainstream modest mouse for me.
glad we talked this out
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//////////Reply by tragedy in toyland
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
@tragedy in toyland, also, can someone please explain the difference btwn the pavements and the junior dinosaurs?
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//////////Reply by chilisfan
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
@tragedy in toyland, both are ’slacker’ gen x alt rock bands but PVMNT is for introverted sweater-wearing vinyl geeks who smoke weed at 420 and Dino Jr is for former black flag fans who like to ride bmx and smoke weed all day long.
//////////Reply by mikeyoe
//////////Posted March 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
@tragedy in toyland,
Moon and Ant Is better than the pre-pubescent 1st album, howevs, it certainly is not Lonsome Crowded West, I grant you that Tragedy.
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//////////Reply by tragedy in toyland
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 7:38 pm
@chilisfan, nothing has ever made more sense to me. feel like ‘missed the boat’ on dino jr (via listening to kyuss instead). pavement sounds like a ‘pussy’ band.
//////////Reply by Ear Dildo
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 pm
@mikeyoe, sonic youth sux too, for the record. ‘daydream nation’= l33t album title, but still, sux. sad. theze bros, paveymeant (alottoGenXfuckbrains) + tonic booth, they wuz good at album titles, ‘not much else’
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//////////Reply by gaudi
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
@Ear Dildo,
daydream nation was such a huge disappointment for me. feel like people only like that album because its “influential”, somehow.
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//////////Reply by skibum
//////////Posted March 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@gaudi, i felt the same way but then i was pressured into listen to some of their ‘later’ and ‘poppier’ music and its better. feel like i ‘get’ sonic youth now [via their more mnstrm releases]
Shit, I meant content, not contact on the above…and my hippie bro sees little pete at hippie shows all the time. Prob on ‘molly’ or ‘k’ or both or none…fuckin hippies
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sorry there are literally no earnest pavement lyrics.. much failure here imo
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i = old 40
Pavement grrrrrrrreat then and alt.
Pavement today = trend via hipster douches
Nirvana = very influential..those who doubt don’t understand.
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//////////Reply by Ear Dildo
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
@ruzz, hey 40s-of-Olde-EnglishBro: why iz u not ‘off married somewhere’ or something?
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sixtieth.
yay – i think i luv u pavey.
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I’ve never herd these bands but would like to be a part of/’embrace’ the 90s comeback
I think I will listen to every Pavement and Dinosaur Jr. album this weekend
Wat about Ugly Kid Joe?
‘cats in the cradle’ and ‘h8 everything about u’ were good songs etc.
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//////////Reply by ModernBratfggt
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 5:16 am
@Dan, Go die
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//////////Reply by Dan
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 am
@ModernBratfggt, chill bro
ps.. ‘Cut Your Hair’ is pretty wicked, rest is kinda boring
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//////////Reply by Mid '80s Baby
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 pm
@Dan, 90’s was a SUCK decade for music ‘overall.’ shitty ‘white-as-fuck’ indie music ‘of various kinds’ + loser ‘wannabe Nirvanas’ bands + rap that wuzn’t as musically or lyrically advanced + shittyass retarded pop + lotz of ‘dawson’s creek’/lilith fair music + various other ‘no reason to live’ ”””’alt””” rock bands. Nirvana + Smashy Poopkins + sum rapperz (Jay, 2, Wu, B.I.G) was guud, everything else = ballz. Also the fashion was suck. 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, 20s, 00’s, every other decade takes a shit on the ’90s in ‘most ways.’ Fuck the 90’s.
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Still waiting for a third eye blindy/smash mouth/wallflowers/sugar ray/everclear/AnCo
Reunion.
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//////////Reply by Stepbakkaledge
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
@Whitekite, 3rd Guy Blindy wuz the best of dese, id say
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Never really ‘got’ pavement, think they’re overrated, but still excited to see them at Sassquatch. Love Dinos Jr., wish i could take alt time machine back to see Velvets Underground.
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PAVEMENT IS THE GREATEST FUCKING BAND OF ALL TIME.
Nirvana is prolly #2.
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//////////Reply by Taking a #2
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 12:03 am
@Barak, IF nirvana and paveymon were in the same universe (they’re not), paveymon would be an asteroid flickin itz shrunken penis while hiding behind pluto and Nirvana would be an indestructible, gleaming tank on the sun (and the nirvanaboyz wud b inside smokin a bowl + getting infinite blowjobs from God) Jesus would be the Beatles.
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//////////Reply by yyaab
//////////Posted March 16th, 2010 at 4:36 am
@Taking a #2, Nirvana was a generation icon, with all the seriousness it implies, the pose, looks, and crappy generational hymns . That’s why it was so easy to relate to them if you we’re a kid. They made easy-listening grunge for kids. Pavement was musically a great band- but I won’t discuss that since people who doesn’t like Pavement like music I consider mediocre. Besides music, what I liked the most were the meaningless lyrics, their lack of urge to make a statement, their undramatic, anti-rock hero ways, which gave them the benefit of not having to be a reference and guide for anyone. Otherwise, all of us kids from the 90’s would have had a gigantic poster of Malkmus on our room’s door XD.
And I agree with you: “Nirvana would be an indestructible, gleaming tank on the sun (and the nirvanaboyz wud b inside smokin a bowl + getting infinite blowjobs from God) Jesus would be the Beatles”.
I couldn’t find a better picture. Amen!
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wonder what p4k would rate polaris’ music from the adventures of pete and pete.
miss u endless mike. miss u inspector 34. miss u mark twib.
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//////////Reply by HJ
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 am
@Brover Cleveland,
miss u pit stain, miss u artie the strongest man in the world, miss u paper cut
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saw steven malkmus open for radiohead years ago. pretty painful opening act. lotsa heckling like ‘get off the fucking stage’, ‘learn how to fuckin sing’, and ‘play the megaman 7 theme’.
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saw malkmus w/ radiohead when i was 15. not good
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You are both over- and under-thinking it. I hate the expression “it is what it is,” but Pavement just is (are?). If you like that sort of thing, then they’re the perfect example of the sort of thing you’ll really like. And v.v. The important thing is: you will be older someday too. Do yourself a favor: put this post somewhere you won’t see it. Otherwise, when that day comes, you’ll never stop cringing. But meanwhile, keep writing because you’re fun to read.
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dont care if stephen malkys and the pavements are old/decrepit i still love slanted & enchanted
~*he did the crime but im doin the time y’all*~
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Holy shit, no lie. I was just listening to the Pete and Pete opening like and hour ago on my iPod. As a 90s kids, YES bring the fucking 90s back, fuck 80s, and the 00s.
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‘HEY SANDY’
FUCK YEAH.
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used to love pavement back when I was a lil’alt in 2007
think they are just in it for the money now, saw the Jicks when I was still in to them and that was enough
love me some Pete and Pete watching episodes brings back childhood memories and makes me very sad/nostalgic and have to listen to AnCo
miss childhood
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Miss u ectoslavia
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//////////Reply by wah00wa
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 am
@dax jax, nobody will get yr comment cept googlers and plus-40-pave-obsessed-former-alts. lets pretend we dont have wives and minivans and follow them around festival circuit.
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//////////Reply by shalalalalalalalala
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
@wah00wa, im 28 and i got it. never underestimate the transgenerational (gen x&y) perspective of early-80s babies
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Pavement were a solid alt band. They are hardly the elder statesmen of alt rock though. Bands like Television, Talking Heads, and The Mothers are true pioneers of alt/art rock. Anyone under 25 should check said bands out, they are all better than Pavement.
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//////////Reply by hgfggt
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:03 pm
@Christmas Swindle, pretty sure this is the funniest thing i’ve ever read. hey everyone you should check out this little known band called led zeppelin
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//////////Reply by chilisfan
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
@hgfggt, um, it’s not like led zeppelin invented rock music. the beatles and the rolling stones pioneered rock music as we know it. maybe some of you kids under 50 should check out those bands.
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//////////Reply by hgfggt
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
@chilisfan, maybe you should get satire
my xgf was always playing pavement in her bmw. but it wasn’t brand new so she could keep some alt street cred.
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Pavement is a good band that played for many years and paid their dues. Every band has bad days on stage, I don’t care who it is. Whatever good spots they are getting now are deserved. You don’t like them, don’t see them. It’s a free country. I’m not even a huge fan, but I do really like a couple of albums. You youngsters (and I know which ones are) that can’t spell words out and talk with numbers like you are on a text message binge should learn to type words out and form a god damn sentence. This isn’t your phone and your text comments make you look like utterly vapid morons. Yeah, now go google vapid.
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//////////Reply by Txtual Seduction
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 pm
@Bob, You are kidding, right? Do you have eyes to see? Have you been on this site before? ‘Goddamn’ is one word. Google ’slow,’ ‘not even funny,’ and ‘kill yourself.’
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//////////Reply by Manwich
//////////Posted June 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
@Txtual Seduction,
Yr name sys it all. Google “Yr.” – it’s got a cultural context. It will edumacate you some.
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i wouldn’t really say that pavement just came back on the scene. the center of pavement, stephen malkmus, has been releasing music non-stop over the last decade. not all pavement is good, but their best songs do something unique, so i enjoy them. it’s sort of nice that what was uber-hip 10 yrs ago can now be old-man nerdy. someday electro, VW and blogs will be embarrasing.
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//////////Reply by no wai
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
“someday… blogs will be embarrasing.”
No. chance.
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i dont understand Pavement’s popularity. theyre a crap. Suede is much better one.
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Coachella is like the physical manifestation of the Sam Goody 99¢ bin.
Plz follow up with lampoony examination of ‘won’t fucking die’ 90s electronica acts – ie Crystal Method/Chemmie Bros/Groove Armada/Orbital/Spring Heel Jack
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//////////Reply by pistolwimp
//////////Posted April 5th, 2010 at 12:23 am
@Walls of Balls, or daft punk
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Pavement’s songs are authentic and simple and meaningful.
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//////////Reply by Alien from Da Future
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
@hi ‘Alien from the Future’ on Pavement:
There wuz once this ‘white-as-fuck’ ’shitstain’ white indie band. They wuz called….. Paveymon.
Here is a lyric:
“Charge it like a puzzle, hit me wearin’ muzzles”
30something ‘alt-glasses’-wearin, ‘nice-n-earnest + now w/ more braindeadness & low expectations & limited cultural knowledge’ were often known to call Paveymon, decades after they wuz ‘relevant’ (passes out trying to put enough quotes around ‘relevant’)
(revives self by listening to ‘anything but Paveymon)
They called Paveymon’s songs, with lyrics such as “Charge it like a puzzle, hit me wearin’ muzzles” = ‘authentic,’ ’simple,’ and ‘meaningful’
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hey this is somewhat unrelated (and i should have asked it yesterday via the standard avatar-thingie) but i had to ask teh HRO-sphere this important question:
is it alt/relevant/cool to like neon indian? i feel a vague sense of foreboding re: backlash, coming on slow and strong like a stubborn bowel movement. i think i ‘like’ neon indian but i think they’re at teh point where too many ppl like them + they were on a maltstream late nite show.
what’s the status on neon indian?
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//////////Reply by hgfggt
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
@elliott, the fat mexibro singer chooses to sequence shit on his fagtop and dance instead of being sweet/authentic and playing that shit. gay band is gay.
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//////////Reply by uhuh
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 6:29 pm
@elliott,maltstream
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//////////Reply by Alien from Da Future
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:31 pm
@elliott, Neon Indian = twaltstream (=ironic awesome?)
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music festivies are over8ed
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Pavement is dumb. There I said it. I saw them in the 90s and they just argued onstage for the whole show.
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//////////Reply by Sample Quotes
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 pm
@Econolodge, The argument sounded like this:
“Yall are standing in my spotlight.”
“OMG there’s a black person in the crowd.”
“Is one of you fuckshakes going to admit I’m John? I am NOT Paul. I’m the ‘Experimental’ ‘Pavementer.’”
“You’re a jackass.”
“Dude, the black guy just shot himself in the face.”
“I get stage left. You said I get stage left! Fock!”
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losing faith in this forum — too many h8rs
think mainstream is the new alt
ur all fags. <3 pavement
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//////////Reply by brobama
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
@jb, agreed. wish ppl would listen to music because they
‘like the way it sounds’ not based on if the band is ‘overrated’ or ‘2 mnstrm.’ gonna go listen frontwards and b happy
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 pm
@jb, ur the biggest fggt. ur just mad bc u r ‘retroactively entry-level’
alt is a 90s term bc u fggts were deluded enough to think you were the alternative to something bad. back in the 60s/70s hip kids liked things that were badass as well as popular amongst many ppl their age. 90s went “”"”alt”"”" bc u guyz were scared of black ppl & ‘their music.’ in the 00s, whites & blacks iz mixing again, itz cool again, hip kids like ‘wutz actually good’
Suck a dick.
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//////////Reply by jb
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 12:09 am
@Sux 4 u, Don’t want to be part of a culture where ppl have to make up terms like ‘retroactively entry level’ to rationalize not liking a band, and further, not liking a person for liking that band, and somehow extrapolating that they are a racist(?).
Couldn’t you simply ‘not like their music’?
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//////////Reply by a cornish pastry
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 12:13 am
@Sux 4 u, thanks for your insight
2 bad you have aspergers
run dmc + aerosmith = walk this way
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 1:16 am
@a cornish pastry, the ‘Internet,’ in its status as Supreme Being of Social Interaction, should develop the technology to instantaneously replace every mention of “you/(this person) must have Aspergers” by some shit-talking dimwit on some alt website with the phrase “the person I’m shit-talking is infinitely smarter and wittier than me and I will never even begin to understand that, and one day I will die and my tombstone will read ‘Here Lies A Very Serious White Man Who Did His Best.’”
//////////Reply by jb
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 12:34 am
@Sux 4 u, “whites & blacks iz mixing again” — lol
Sorry I can’t get over your remarks. Could you expand on your thesis concerning racism in popular music through the decades? I have an essay due next week and I don’t know many ppl as knowledgeable about the underlying sociology of music. Thx bro
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 1:11 am
@jb, OK, so I gather “zany internet speak” is “evidence of Aspergers” for Pavement Bro #1, and “insight/humor, no matter the source or the style in which it’s delivered,” is “something I’m sarcastic/skeptical/annoyed about” for Pavement Bro #2. So, I’ll try it like this:
–When Pavement came out, rap was huge. And Nirvana was huge. You thought you were “too good” for Nirvana because “regular white people” liked it. You didn’t like rap music because “that’s black people stuff.”
Is that too much sociology for you guys?
How about we all just stick with “Pavement sucks.” We can all be safe saying that.
P.S. Did it ever occur to you that “retroactively entry level” might be “a joke on several levels” + “this guy is making fun of us just ’cause/why not/it’s hilarious + easy”
P.P.S. You are (check all that apply) 1) Easily annoyed 2) Humorless 3) A fan of a band who wrote a song with the lyric “Charge it like a puzzle, hit me wearin’ muzzles” 4) “Can’t wait for They Might Be Giants to do an album for GROWN-UPS again, man, would be so rad” 5) So unbelievably white
//////////Reply by a cornish pastry
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 8:25 am
@Sux 4 u, sorry fggt, think my joke was ‘infinitely smarter and wittier than you’
2 bad ur 2 busy mixin blacks and whites 2 understand
will take u 2 the They might be Giants concert tho
<3 u sad mulatto fggt
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 8:45 am
@a cornish pastry, ur comment = 2 dribbles of piss in my general direction
my comment = actual dick-slap to the face, murder, then pissing on grave
I’m not mulatto, I’m a white guy
Here is something: there are bands that ‘lame white fggts’ (and just regular white ppl) like these days, such as Dirty Projjies and Of MyMontreally that black ppl such as Questlove and Solange Knowles ‘actually like’
No black person has ever liked Pavement
Black people invented the blues, gospel, rock ‘n roll, and hip-hop, amongst other things.
Have vague memories of some lame suburban kids in high school ‘rlly diggin’ “Istanbul not constantinople” and having me listen to it, but that’s about ‘as far as it goes’ w/ me and TMBG
//////////Reply by a cornish pasty
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
@Sux 4 u, thnx had no idea u were a “white guy” sorta envision u like a rlly short Davey Matthews with horn rimmed glasses now.
Not 2 scared of you ‘murdering’ me tho. Mostly b/c I’m a lumberjack but also b/c i live in alaska.
U have a negative/hostile nrg that can’t be healthy.
I can be your life coach tho.
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//////////Reply by PavementPhan69
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 10:41 am
@jb,
MISS U PAVEMENT….
MISS THE ‘GOLDEN AGE OF INDIE’…WHEN BROS COULD ‘JUST’ WEAR THEIR ‘ALTERNADAD GEAR’ AND THINK OF ZANY WORDS THAT RHYME
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Polaris (on that song) = Vampy Weekend + Distortion + Beach House.
While I’m kind of kidding. I seriously just watched Pete and Patt for the first time about a month ago, heard that theme and was like shit. why doesn’t music still sound like that? (dream poppy but not just ironically)
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What a pretentious piece of pseudo intellectual drivel. You give Tweens a bad name. Pavement are relevent to this day. Maybe they do not have enough emo, gen y w@nk for your tastes.
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//////////Reply by Sux 4 u
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
@Rbrown, Paveymon wuz ‘emo’ without ‘even expressing any real emotions,’ ‘just’ by ‘being huge pussies’
= ‘impressive’
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BEASTIE BOYS REVIVAL YA
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//////////Reply by HOMOSAPIEN_FUCK
//////////Posted March 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
@HOMOSAPIEN_FUCK,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD6G9jNvJHs
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@Sux 4 u, pathetic comeback from a moron
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//////////Reply by Buskin on yo ass
//////////Posted March 4th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
@Rbrown, I agree, Rbrown. Astute use of the word ‘moron,’ may I add. Way to ‘tell him like it is.’ Bro, would you like to attend the Pavement reunion concert special with me this summer? It is ‘going down’ in Normal, Illinois, on a sunny day in July, 2010. The tunes will be ’slammin,’ the sun will be bright, grass will be green, and, all around us, pasty alternadads will cry, hold hands, will NOT cut their hair… and slanted enchantment will rise up like yeast in some whitebread…
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@grant golland: excellent usage of the word “Malkmusian” — I aspire to same, always. And…”Easy to be indie” in the 90s? We WALKED to dusty, over-packed record stores & READ obscure paper mags from foreign countries because our media was still too lame to pick up on the deep, hot shit. So, shaddap you embryos! Go buy some cassette tapes and get down with the scratch!
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thanks for saving pavement for me.
LOVE
Cp
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uhh pavement was not that good, i was there i was preauthalt. Pavement is coming back strong b/c they generate nostalgic feelings, u ppl dont love pavement, u love pete+pete afraid of dark and sunny d. Pavement is good but c’mon alts let’s keep it relevant!
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Damn.. Listening to and/or watching “Carrot Rope” may cause impotence.. Holy fuck is it lame! They’re trying to do like the “zany Beatles playing around” vibe, but wow, EPIC FAIL. they just look like dumbass losers
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http://2010.goldenplains.com.au/whos-playing/
altest festival in the world right now
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Stephen Malkmus did an interview where the interviewer speculated on a Pavement reunion, and S.M. replied something like, “Maybe in 10 years when all of our fans have lucrative jobs in order to pay for the insanely overpriced reunion tickets.”
It is alt to Pavement, and if that is too alt for you, you are not alt enough.
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all that i want is a shady memeayeeeeememe
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Pavement rules. Listen to Slanted and enchanted before you trash em. It is a true classic. Most people don’t have the attention span to appeiciate their music.It takes a few listens. It’s true that their last couple albums aren’t the greatest but crooked rain and wowed zowwee rule. The fact they don’t appeal to most you guys makes them that much cooler. However I’m not really sure about all the reunion stuff. There are tonnes of sweet new bands popping up everyday that deserve there moment in the spot light too but don’t hate Pavement cause some hip hop crew don’t like em and it’s ok too be white.
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THE RADIO STATION AT MY LOCAL RELEVANT COFFEE SHOP QUOTED THIS ARTICLE AS LEGITIMATE NEWS. LOLWHAT
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p4k gave the paveymon compilation a 10.0 today. how the fuck is it a 10 when they even admit that the singles are novelty garbage? plus they call “grounded” ‘majestic.’ i just listened to that shit: it’s like if “only in dreams” by weezer had no hooks and had 1/16th the awesomeness. pavement is like fountains of wayne without the hooks, or nirvana w/o testicles. they absolutely suck…. no one can convince me otherwise. cheesy novelty almost-pop songs + grungy aimless sludgebuckets = pavement. fucking ridiculous
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“There’s an impossible ease and haphazard grace to this music. A lot of bands work very hard to make you appreciate their meticulous craft or browbeat you with hooks, but Pavement tossed off brilliantly composed pop songs with a shambling, carefree swagger. They made it sound easy, and maybe it was.”
‘Browbeat you with hooks’ My fucking christ…. P4k has just said ‘wow, these pavement guys can’t write a song to save their fucking lives, but it seems like that’s what they were aiming for, and that’s cool, because, yknow, slackers unite yall!’ this makes me so mad, i will freely admit…. they r NOT ‘brilliantly composed’! They have no fucking ’swagger’… they are just lazy, white-as-fuck garbage, song after song of useless nothing
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//////////Reply by Brandon
//////////Posted March 27th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
@P4k is making me mad, i like 2 scream @ walls when i’m mad.
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I’m 27. Pavement is the kind of band that made me want to have sex with my 90s tween boyfriend, even though we didn’t have much in common, b/c we both liked Steven Malkmus. Said BF now owns a head shop and I am a corporate professional.
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Someone may have requested this, I didn’t read the posts, but why hasn’t Nirvana gotten back together? I think they would be really cool if they played again. like, some new music from them would rock. do you think they will see this and do it? that would rock.
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Pavement is just the greatest american 90’s indie rock band. A time when we had another meaning for the term “Indie”.
Don’t waste your time comparing it to other decades classics, to supergroups, to another music genres, or to today’s best music around, it won’t take you anywhere. It’s the same to compare the best pasta around with the best sushi, when some people like more one kind of food than another. It’s nonsense…
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Pavements 2nd! album “crooked rain, crooked rain” (technically their 3rd if you count “westing: by musket and sextant” as an album the same way you might consider Nirvana’s Incesticide their 3rd album, not to mention Pavement’s Watery Domestic EP) came out on valentines day 94 a good 3 months or so before Weezer’s (who do kick ass, hello: Pinkerton!) debut album but yet Pavement are a Weezer rip-off band!? No, Stephen couldn’t sing (still can’t) and they always admitted to not being able to play their instruments and even said their early shows they couldn’t even hold a note together hence the title given to them: slacker rock. The falsetto ooh ooh harmonies and occasional off-beat weird zany music break-down were what Pavement were doing YEARS! before Weezer. Weezer has conversely said they were not only heavily influenced by Pavement but, oh oh wait for it, have said they blatantly out of love and respect RIP THEM OFF! Weezer even went out on a limb to appear in one of Pavements videos (painted soldiers) as respect and because the 2 bands were friends but Geffen wouldn’t allow Weezer to do it. Now I love Weezer but: they ripped off Pavement not vice versa.
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