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How many mp3s / albums / streams must an artist sell to make minimum wage?
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I just saw this 'really sweet infographic' about how much artists must sell in order to make minimum wage in the United States. From what I understand, there are tons of ways for artists to make money by selling their CDs, but they usually get 'ripped off' by iTunes, label contracts, and streaming services. Not sure if it is realistic to expect 2 make money in the modern world unless you are Coldplay.

Would u rather be in a minimum wage buzzband, or just work at McDonalds for a while?

Does this infographic 'open ur eyes'?
Does it seem lucrative to be in a buzzband, or should they just get 'real desk jobs'?
Are streaming services 'bullshit' scams that don't really pay artists?
Should the American education system be converted into Infographics so that information is graphically displayed in a beautiful way that seems compelling and interesting?
Should I start a blog with fake, yet plausible infographics?

Do u know how much modern buzz bands get paid when I download their mp3s for free off the internet?

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rc bro-am's picture

first?

MultipleHeadTraumas's picture

@rc bro-am, YEAH!

WhiteBlipster's picture

@MultipleHeadTraumas, '?' = ntry lvlr

WinstonTheOwl's picture

vinyl?

feh's picture

@WinstonTheOwl, vinyl.

WinstonTheOwl's picture

i only buy vinyl

MEMEs's picture

@WinstonTheOwl, y m2, how many do they earn from that ?:D

(ps im not a dj, i buy vinyl albums to listen to)

alanis morissette's picture

second

ay caramba

WinstonTheOwl's picture

cause im an owl

HJ's picture

@WinstonTheOwl, i like u your funny

OhNoOhMy's picture

I thought everyone knew this already.

dee's picture

i like the combination of pink and 333333 gray so much, that I saved the img to my computer.

Q: if it happens to be a 'band' instead of a 'solo' artist, do they still get the same cut or would that be per band member? serious q!

Maxwell's picture

@dee, brah, you're a moron--

hylkk's picture

what the eff is spotify? last.fm all the way.

AreWeHereNow?'s picture

@hylkk, Try going to spotify.com

walker's picture

altigraphics report

Elle's picture

This is like one of those neat posters in science classrooms where they try to put the solar system in perspective by showing you how big the sun would be if the earth was the size of a pea.

Blaq Wmyn's picture

@Elle, I luv u.

blondlefonda's picture

this should be done in terms of how much $ it takes to build an adobe house for my fam.

cakes's picture

@blondlefonda, just four walls & adobe slats?

[--------------------------------------------this much $$$--------------------------------------------]

the freewheelin''s picture

@cakes, photoshop for my girls

duncan jewett's picture

myspace is in again

genericaltbro's picture

@duncan jewett, gentrification, yo

alter ebro's picture

//generic indie-branded artist// just LEAKED yall! Go DL it kwik while u still can!

tatetape's picture

seriously what the dick IS spotify?
i would go check it out but i feel like id be contributing to making it 'big' and 'buzzy' and i cant handle one more thing buzzing in my life right now. so yah. dilemma.

arnoldeenie's picture

@tatetape, I abs, totes agree. really can't take the buzz... im blackin out...

Pwllwgrino's picture

@arnoldeenie,
The more we use Spotify, the more income on commarcals will probably come and will be spread on the artist that you support.

AreWeHereNow?'s picture

@tatetape, Well, there is a horrible model for success: I hear a lot about this new service. Ugh, I hate stuff that gets media coverage. I don't want to contribute.

That will inevitably lead to missing out on some of the most exciting opportunities to generate revenue.

genericaltbro's picture

how many "i am carles" shirts does carles have to sell to make minimum wage?

WhiteBlipster's picture

@genericaltbro, 'like' [via the FaceSpaces]

Abroham Lincoln's picture

What are mediafire's royalty rates?

Isabelle Eberhardt's picture

can one make the transition from alt bag to streamer (via getting desk job)- or does the process 'kill a bro' (via identity crisis)?

will wavvves bro and vivian grrlsbros and other entertainers 'go thru a hard time' when their products are no longer viable?

what sort of work can you make money at these days?

Jacques Costeau's picture

U gotta sell merch man. Carles makes real money cus he's got am appy ads. I wonder if my band could broker a deal where we all wear am appy at shows and they pay us, but it's like SECRET "underground" marketing.

Jacques Costeau's picture

we could also eat Sun Chips on stage, but in a meaningful, totally not obvious way. holler at me sun chips/am appy inc.

crayolabear's picture

This is why bands tour! Cause they can make so much more money from getting people to see their shows. Albums are just a way to get the music into listeners' hands, so that they can coax them to pay to see a show.

feh's picture

@crayolabear, but what about ambient musicians??

crayolabear's picture

@feh, they all have invested in home-stereo equipment

hurr durr's picture

btw, how much do artists make on torrents?

the freewheelin''s picture

@hurr durr, a little from their alt-branded malware but that's it

plant food's picture

Interesting, but the comparison between CD/download revenue streams and Last.fm etc. is a little flawed because Last.fm is a broadcast medium.

Would have been interesting to also compare Last.fm earnings to other broadcast medium ie. traditional radio royalties, having your song used in an obscure TV programme/film etc.

+ the broadcast mediums like Last.fm promote music, and expose listeners to music they might want to buy.

So to really calculate the benefit of the streaming services you should assume some % of the streams would eventually convert into an incremental album/single sale.

plant food's picture

testing the blink tag

plant food's picture

@plant food, it doesn't work. what about strong?

plant food's picture

shut up now

carfee's picture

@plantfood

In the UK BBC Radio used to pay £45 per play, or it used to in 2005 (when I last worked as a composer).

Spotify pays a tenth of a penny.

AreWeHereNow?'s picture

@carfee, That is an irrelevant comparison. A radio plays to an entire population. Spotify plays are to one person at a computer...or whoever else happens to be within earshot of the speakers.

carfee's picture

Yes it is, but Plantfood was interested in how much radio paid per play and I offered an answer.

fwdfwd's picture

Why does the chart assume you need a label to sell on iTunes or Napster? That's not the case so it should show the option of selling on iTunes on a self-pressed CD and tracks. You pay the Apple charge (0.30 per track?) or equivalent, but that's it.

walru's picture

What's the difference between a giant pizza and a musician? A giant pizza can feed a family of 4.

Axiomata's picture

Why do they get a bigger cut of CDs sold through cdbaby compared to retail?

JS's picture

With most indie bands, it's not whether they are in a band or work at McDonald's - they generally do a bit of both.

Cowboy's picture

The Age of the Rock-N-Roll Gods is over. Remember Keith Moon driving Cadillacs into hotel swimming pools, Pete Townshend smashing up brand new Strats and Marshall stacks every night, the Stones taking over whole floors of high-end hotels and trashing them?

Or when tours were vehicles to promote album sales?

Gone. Over. Goodbye. There ain't enough play money to tolerate the crap anymore. There also isn't enough record company power to sell tons of albums anymore, either.

Being a rock star just got to be a lot more like work, a lot more like having a real job. That has its upside, however.

dmak's picture

The big record houses used to manufacture the stars, and a few chosen ones were made rich. Now each one has to build their own career and art, and find an audience. You can still make it big with pop, since the audience is so huge now, but I think there is more room for musicians to carve out their own niche, since most start with the assumption that they will not be the next Britney.Now artists may make less off album sales, but there are so many distribution channels, and the recording ability has really come down to the local level that new artists can break in. I may be way off base here, since I am not in the industry, but from the sidelines I am listening to so much great new music that I would not have found ten years ago, I can't help but think this is the golden age.

dmitry's picture

Being the inventor of mp3 player, winamp, I just wanted to say a few comments about this for the record. Before mp3, the world was a terrible place where record industry controlled what you hear and see. They were stomping on culture with a big EGO size of Mars and asshole attitude. On top of that, the CD pollution from production of plastic was horrible! Imagine how many people on earth out there, and multiply by CD produced for each album, it's just a horror picture, environmentally.I agree with dmak's post, he's pointed out that in today's world, you can really let your talents shine and nothing will stop that. You will make it, if you show your true talents. On that note, have a nice day, no matter what, try to enjoy the rest of fraction of time being manifested on earth ......

kbeezy's picture

This is propaganda for the recording industry, this is not true. If this were true you would get less than 30,000 for having a platinum record. Do the math people.

Potomkin's picture

Yes, the record companies were greedy and arrogant, but that doesn't let the free-downloading population off. Truth is, the music business is just about finished now and is unlikely to recover. Why should artists bother to spend their time and effort manufacturing beautiful recordings if everyone then downloads/steals them for nothing? It's simple really. You will see music studios, labels and technicians vanishing in swathes over the next five years, and the illusion of the 'music business' will be maintained by various arms of Universal putting out cheaply produced pop until Armageddon. It's happening already in fact. No more classic pop and rock. No artists with their own ideas able to take them to a wide audience. No more incentive to record. If you don't believe me, check out how many recording studios are going under - and how many able people are bailing out of the music biz. Sorry to be doomy, but it's the truth. And by the way, mp3's, Spotify and all the other compressed-audio horrors that exist on the net really do sound sh*t compared to a vinyl record, even when played on a cheap deck. What price progress eh?

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