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Yesterday, Carles penned a piece of the 'up and coming' 'indie' artist named Lana Del Rey [link]. She is one of the most controversial figures in indie, especially as we begin to uncover her past. She was basically a failed mainstream artist who is being 'rebranded' behind major label dollars. Her songs appeal to indie blog bros who can catapult her towards relevancy + NPR-wave album sales ---> mainstream success. Should Interscope Records be applauded 4 signing her, and throwing mad $$$ behind her in order to try to take her to the mainstream thru the indiesphere?
Lana Del Rey will be the most divisive indie artist in years, and she will put the blogosphere thru many of our biggest challenges. Who will choose to 'cover' her? What blogs will be 'simple' enough to hype her manufactured indie pop sugar? Who will 'pan' LanaBB? Who will be a coward and say "It doesn't matter where she comes from and what she looks like. She makes good music, and that's all that matters"?
Meet Lizzy Grant. She had blonde hair, didn't look very 'alt sexy'. Sorta like a girl from my high school who was a part-time hostess at Chili's.
Here is a song by the artist formerly known as Lizzy Grant. As u can see, her gimmick of using 'shitty footage' and mediocre clips of herself singing were already establish, just not 'perfected'? She accidentally looked like too much of an amateur youtuber back when she was Lizzy Grant.
NYC songstress Lizzy Grant makes her debut into the music world with a video for her single, “Kill Kill”. Armed with her three-track EP, devastatingly retro-sexy look, and haunting, soulful voice, Lizzy is one to watch for ‘09. http://www.lizzygrant.com/
Is Lana Del Rey more 'DEVASTATINGLY RETRO-SEXY' than Lizzy Grant? <3 <3 <3
Do u feel 'pissed off' by the manufactured buzz surrounding Lizzy Grant Del Rey?
Do u just want her lips?
Here is Lizzy Grant hanging out with an 'industry insider', probably scheming to 'trick' the indie blogosphere.
Canoodling with industry insiders
OMG u got to hang out with Miley???!?! #jeal
Lana Del Rey: Did she have fake collagen lip injections?
In a world where Best Coast is celebrated for being 'pro-women' and 'empowering', Lana Del Rey is a massive step back for the anti-cyberbullying feminist movement within indie rock. Her career works against the indie ideals that if you are 'talented enough', u can make it. She repackaged herself as a brunette with collagen filled lips packaged as a lofi diy broad.
Will Lana Del Rey continue to fool the indiesphere, or will blogs protect our tastemaking voice and rally against her?
Do u h8 her or <3 her bc she is hot?
Who was she marketed as before? Little Boots, Lizzie Allen or some shit?
Is 'tricking the indie blogosphere' the fastest way 2 indie?
Should the blogosphere 'banish' her from indie instead of 'hyping her in2 the club'?
Is any blog that 'hypes her' totally inauthentic?
What type of cosmetic enhancements / plastic surgeries has she had in order to look 'more alt'?
Should we not judge her based on her packaging, only on her 1 decent song like we do with all other mediocre artists?
Who is the real Lizzy Grant/Lana Del Rey?
Does none of this matter bc she 'looks good in a bikini'?
Lana Del Rey is a hot female indie singer. She is 'mad controversial.'
Comments
FIRSTIES
FIRSTIES
Lol - I forget when was the
Lol - I forget when was the last time I was so amused. Your descriptions sound just like the ones in South Park's episode with thanksgiving day - I read it all on that tone ..like, who cares who she is..I don't think she would exist if no one would pay her attention. I mean, it's the first time I hear about this Lana and to be honest - grows lips...:P ps: the owners of this hotels do not know me - i just like to test websites for decent links :P Hotel Cluj
Altho I'm not testing a hotel
Altho I'm not testing a hotel connection, I totally agree w/Bronominous. Everybody in show business has been remade again & again. Why is this person so special???
I have no idea - an indie
I have no idea - an indie singer it seems. :) But it does not matter who she is - I just laughed at the description. :P
Hotel Cluj
Who's the idiot who wrote
Who's the idiot who wrote this? What, did you write this from your phone, spelling words with numbers and what not?
I can't help but give in to
I can't help but give in to the very notion your pen/fingertips is/are trying to squash. Here's the deal, we live in a fully transparent world now. Authenticity is a MUST no matter who you are, because sooner or later, somebody finds you out. Having said all that, lets take into consideration who her target audience is...I really don't think mainstream youth from around the globe will care what she WAS, it's who she's BECOME. Young men will revere her. Old men will love her and little girls will want to be her. Manufactured? Hell yes. But, I could find 20 more very good artists, male or female that have reinvented themselves to help sell their artistry. Her voice and lyrics haven't changed, and they're both good. Her exterior appearance is absolutely different and is more mysterious and sexy, a la FIONA APPLE 20 years ago. If her tunes are good beyond these first couple that are VERY good, I say she deserves to be taken seriously because of the tunes. I don't blame her, I blame the rest of the human race for being shallow enough that she has to puff her lips up and change her exterior for anyone to notice her REAL talent, which she DOES have. And that is a voice and an ability to sell a good melody. She's the female version of another guy coming up I recently saw live from Detroit. Jamie McCarthy. He's got 4 albums on iTunes but has killed himself off and is coming out with an entirely different band and persona. Why? For the opposite reasons. He was too real, raw and yet attractive, so no one took him seriously, from what I hear, his new act will be same voice, same song writer, just an uglier version of what he was, then people will buy into his dark writing because people can't hear a soul if it's got a pretty face attached to it in the male artist world.
Wayweirdfables
Thank you Wayweirdfables; you
Thank you Wayweirdfables; you have just summed up the situation perfectly. Who gives a crap about her back story? Can she sing? Yup. Does she write her own songs? Check. Any hipster dufus who faults her for where she comes from has clearly lost the plot-well said.
EXACTLY thank you! People are
EXACTLY thank you! People are so shallow these days, and also seriously, its her choice if she wants to puff up her lips, dye her hair etc. If I had the money I'd get some new boobs and maybe some bottox too. Many of us would probably do. We don't know why she's done it, but its probably for herself not for her music. Her music hasn't changed, she's only changed her stage name and her look. Don't hate on the girl, she's trying to make something of herself, something we all try to do.
I can't help but give in to
I can't help but give in to the very notion your pen/fingertips is/are trying to squash. Here's the deal, we live in a fully transparent world now. Authenticity is a MUST no matter who you are, because sooner or later, somebody finds you out. Having said all that, lets take into consideration who her target audience is...I really don't think mainstream youth from around the globe will care what she WAS, it's who she's BECOME. Young men will revere her. Old men will love her and little girls will want to be her. Manufactured? Hell yes. But, I could find 20 more very good artists, male or female that have reinvented themselves to help sell their artistry. Her voice and lyrics haven't changed, and they're both good. Her exterior appearance is absolutely different and is more mysterious and sexy, a la FIONA APPLE 20 years ago. If her tunes are good beyond these first couple that are VERY good, I say she deserves to be taken seriously because of the tunes. I don't blame her, I blame the rest of the human race for being shallow enough that she has to puff her lips up and change her exterior for anyone to notice her REAL talent, which she DOES have. And that is a voice and an ability to sell a good melody. She's the female version of another guy coming up I recently saw live from Detroit. Jamie McCarthy. He's got 4 albums on iTunes but has killed himself off and is coming out with an entirely different band and persona. Why? For the opposite reasons. He was too real, raw and yet attractive, so no one took him seriously, from what I hear, his new act will be same voice, same song writer, just an uglier version of what he was, then people will buy into his dark writing because people can't hear a soul if it's got a pretty face attached to it in the male artist world.
Wayweirdfables
I can't help but give in to
I can't help but give in to the very notion your pen/fingertips is/are trying to squash. Here's the deal, we live in a fully transparent world now. Authenticity is a MUST no matter who you are, because sooner or later, somebody finds you out. Having said all that, lets take into consideration who her target audience is...I really don't think mainstream youth from around the globe will care what she WAS, it's who she's BECOME. Young men will revere her. Old men will love her and little girls will want to be her. Manufactured? Hell yes. But, I could find 20 more very good artists, male or female that have reinvented themselves to help sell their artistry. Her voice and lyrics haven't changed, and they're both good. Her exterior appearance is absolutely different and is more mysterious and sexy, a la FIONA APPLE 20 years ago. If her tunes are good beyond these first couple that are VERY good, I say she deserves to be taken seriously because of the tunes. I don't blame her, I blame the rest of the human race for being shallow enough that she has to puff her lips up and change her exterior for anyone to notice her REAL talent, which she DOES have. And that is a voice and an ability to sell a good melody. She's the female version of another guy coming up I recently saw live from Detroit. Jamie McCarthy. He's got 4 albums on iTunes but has killed himself off and is coming out with an entirely different band and persona. Why? For the opposite reasons. He was too real, raw and yet attractive, so no one took him seriously, from what I hear, his new act will be same voice, same song writer, just an uglier version of what he was, then people will buy into his dark writing because people can't hear a soul if it's got a pretty face attached to it in the male artist world.
Wayweirdfables
This "expose" was absolutely
This "expose" was absolutely pathetic. Thank god I'm not looking to you to tell me what is "hip". What a fucking loser...
This "expose" was absolutely
This "expose" was absolutely pathetic. Thank god I'm not looking to you to tell me what is "hip". What a fucking loser...
This "expose" was absolutely
This "expose" was absolutely pathetic. Thank god I'm not looking to you to tell me what is "hip". What a fucking loser...
u jelly?
u jelly?
I think your a fucking moron
I think your a fucking moron
I don't understand why it is
I don't understand why it is cowardly to say "It doesn't matter where she comes from and what she looks like. She makes good music, and that's all that matters" ? She is a musician afterall and that is probably the most mature approach the public could take if we are ever going to dismiss the importance of 'beauty' and 'image' in the media and society.
LOL at 'tricking the indie blogosphere' .. umm its called internet marketing. Every artist nowadays uses blogs to get their 'name out there' and as far as I know, she has admitted that changing her name and 'rebranding' her image was based on opinions by lawyers and marketers because it would 'suit her music more'. She's not covering it up, she has mentioned that in many interviews that I have read. And what makes her rebranding anything different to other artist ? e.g. madonna, david bowie, katy perry, Lady gaga etc etc. Artist continually rebrand themselves to stay relevant and new and to just simply try something different and embrace creativity.
And to those that say 'if she was that talented, she wouldnt have to change her appearance to get noticed' -
I think most negative critisms just come because what she has done has appeared to work.
The fact that changing her name/appearance/'brand image" has suddenly given her indie and mainstream success just shows how artifical and superficial both the industry and society is. If changing her image was a bad move - her career wouldn't be moving as fast as it is. And not only has her image changed, but like many other artist her music grows and develops too. So let's not forget that she really got noticed from her track 'video games' which just happened to be written and released later in her career under the Lana Del Ray monkier. So it is naive to think that all this success purely comes from a rebranding, and not because people might actually like her (more recent) music.
I don't understand why it is
I don't understand why it is cowardly to say "It doesn't matter where she comes from and what she looks like. She makes good music, and that's all that matters" ? She is a musician afterall and that is probably the most mature approach the public could take if we are ever going to dismiss the importance of 'beauty' and 'image' in the media and society.
LOL at 'tricking the indie blogosphere' .. umm its called internet marketing. Every artist nowadays uses blogs to get their 'name out there' and as far as I know, she has admitted that changing her name and 'rebranding' her image was based on opinions by lawyers and marketers because it would 'suit her music more'. She's not covering it up, she has mentioned that in many interviews that I have read. And what makes her rebranding anything different to other artist ? e.g. madonna, david bowie, katy perry, Lady gaga etc etc. Artist continually rebrand themselves to stay relevant and new and to just simply try something different and embrace creativity.
And to those that say 'if she was that talented, she wouldnt have to change her appearance to get noticed' -
I think most negative critisms just come because what she has done has appeared to work.
The fact that changing her name/appearance/'brand image" has suddenly given her indie and mainstream success just shows how artifical and superficial both the industry and society is. If changing her image was a bad move - her career wouldn't be moving as fast as it is. And not only has her image changed, but like many other artist her music grows and develops too. So let's not forget that she really got noticed from her track 'video games' which just happened to be written and released later in her career under the Lana Del Ray monkier. So it is naive to think that all this success purely comes from a rebranding, and not because people might actually like her (more recent) music.
I don't understand why it is
I don't understand why it is cowardly to say "It doesn't matter where she comes from and what she looks like. She makes good music, and that's all that matters" ? She is a musician afterall and that is probably the most mature approach the public could take if we are ever going to dismiss the importance of 'beauty' and 'image' in the media and society.
LOL at 'tricking the indie blogosphere' .. umm its called internet marketing. Every artist nowadays uses blogs to get their 'name out there' and as far as I know, she has admitted that changing her name and 'rebranding' her image was based on opinions by lawyers and marketers because it would 'suit her music more'. She's not covering it up, she has mentioned that in many interviews that I have read. And what makes her rebranding anything different to other artist ? e.g. madonna, david bowie, katy perry, Lady gaga etc etc. Artist continually rebrand themselves to stay relevant and new and to just simply try something different and embrace creativity.
And to those that say 'if she was that talented, she wouldnt have to change her appearance to get noticed' -
I think most negative critisms just come because what she has done has appeared to work.
The fact that changing her name/appearance/'brand image" has suddenly given her indie and mainstream success just shows how artifical and superficial both the industry and society is. If changing her image was a bad move - her career wouldn't be moving as fast as it is. And not only has her image changed, but like many other artist her music grows and develops too. So let's not forget that she really got noticed from her track 'video games' which just happened to be written and released later in her career under the Lana Del Ray monkier. So it is naive to think that all this success purely comes from a rebranding, and not because people might actually like her (more recent) music.
I don't understand why it is
I don't understand why it is cowardly to say "It doesn't matter where she comes from and what she looks like. She makes good music, and that's all that matters" ? She is a musician afterall and that is probably the most mature approach the public could take if we are ever going to dismiss the importance of 'beauty' and 'image' in the media and society.
LOL at 'tricking the indie blogosphere' .. umm its called internet marketing. Every artist nowadays uses blogs to get their 'name out there' and as far as I know, she has admitted that changing her name and 'rebranding' her image was based on opinions by lawyers and marketers because it would 'suit her music more'. She's not covering it up, she has mentioned that in many interviews that I have read. And what makes her rebranding anything different to other artist ? e.g. madonna, david bowie, katy perry, Lady gaga etc etc. Artist continually rebrand themselves to stay relevant and new and to just simply try something different and embrace creativity.
And to those that say 'if she was that talented, she wouldnt have to change her appearance to get noticed' -
I think most negative critisms just come because what she has done has appeared to work.
The fact that changing her name/appearance/'brand image" has suddenly given her indie and mainstream success just shows how artifical and superficial both the industry and society is. If changing her image was a bad move - her career wouldn't be moving as fast as it is. And not only has her image changed, but like many other artist her music grows and develops too. So let's not forget that she really got noticed from her track 'video games' which just happened to be written and released later in her career under the Lana Del Ray monkier. So it is naive to think that all this success purely comes from a rebranding, and not because people might actually like her (more recent) music.
Is this bitch even indie?
Is this bitch even indie? FIRST
I'd still hit it.
I'd still hit it.
no way. ffffirst
no way. ffffirst
this is not new news, if you
this is not new news, if you look at her last.fm page it links to Lizzie Grant's page
u need to start blogging
u need to start blogging these kinda things??
w o w she looks way better
w o w she looks way better without faqke lips omg
Tru dat
Tru dat
hella false nig she NEEDED
hella false nig she NEEDED that work done
Watching the video, I get
Watching the video, I get really worried about her lips. They look like they're going to fall off or maybe just explode. I'm worried for her safety and health.
I felt the same way!
I felt the same way!
I like her....and I don't
I like her....and I don't like a lot of things.
CARLES BLOWS THE FUCKING LID
CARLES BLOWS THE FUCKING LID OFF THIS STORY (1st pst?!)
LEAVE LANA ALONE
LEAVE LANA ALONE
woah...first?
woah...first?
FIRST. UNH
FIRST. UNH
fuck! is authenticity real or
fuck! is authenticity real or not! MY EYES SAY <3 BUT MY MIND SAYS "FUCK THAT FAKE WHORE!!"
'literally!' then promptly
'literally!' then promptly make an exit.
finally, the truth about her
finally, the truth about her scary plastic face!
love her sound though....i'm
love her sound though....i'm so confused.
She's got the skin tone of a
She's got the skin tone of a RealDoll®.
godamn hro ur back bb missed
godamn hro ur back bb missed u~
You're a bit behind the
You're a bit behind the times, Carles.
Don't care if she is. Still
Don't care if she is. Still sounds good to me.
Why all the focus on identity? If it sounds good, it's good. Period.
u don't 'get it' u must work
u don't 'get it' u must work for interscope rcrds. dislike.
Wrong. Aen ole stoop shit
Wrong.
Aen ole stoop shit can soun good.
well, the older song is still
well, the older song is still good anyways. i'd bone both of her
oh, and.............nose job,
oh, and.............nose job, lip injections, chin implant, eye lift, possible cheek implants.
or maybe it's definite cheek
or maybe it's definite cheek implants, possible chin implant. i dunno.... the shape of her whole face is different though.
you make a valid point,
you make a valid point, though i think you went a little to 'conspiracy theory' on this. reality is nearly every act out there has an angle, whether they care to admit it or not. so this girl and her handlers are trying to make money off her by using a gimmick...has anything changed? not since people realized you could make money from selling music. truth? if she has talent, people just wont care how it came about. proof? pink, lady gaga, kreashawn for starters. the list could go all the way back to patsy cline.
You make a great point,
You make a great point, people shouldn't hate her because she has backing and has changed her look. If she has backing she can't be indy but as long as shes good she'll go far. Allot like the examples you gave. Thanks for shedding some light on this subject.
Kinda shocked.....guess I'm
Kinda shocked.....guess I'm the only real on the block yall
I'm shocked that someone in
I'm shocked that someone in the music industry is a phony......PSYCHE!
But thankfully the business
But thankfully the business still cranks out great music. Not!!
:)
I'm back bitchezzz.. luff u
I'm back bitchezzz.. luff u lana bb
Great expose. And not
Great expose. And not surprised.
STALKER
STALKER
This is the ultimate
This is the ultimate insult.
Worst Coast
This comment brought many
This comment brought many happy tears. Thank you.
this first shit really needs
this first shit really needs to stop..fuckin nerd bros
Nerd is *our* word
Nerd is *our* word
Who cares!
Who cares!
Carles bb, hate to burst yr
Carles bb, hate to burst yr bubble, but those music industry bros in the pictures aren't actually music industry bros. They're internet domain name industry ppl: http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2010/dailyposts/20100105.htm
Her dad's a rich domain investor. There's lots of authenticity questions & stuff, but be more careful when you call ppl complete frauds n'shit. Kthxbai.
Yeah dudes, Those are totally
Yeah dudes,
Those are totally chill domain bros -- her Dad is a big "domain registerer" I found those links yesterday after like 5 minutes, mebbe a tiny bit of research before you flip out with raging hate boners all over the fuckin place, but yeah she sux
how many names did Arial Penis go through? Ministry was a different band completely, Bon Scott in the Easybeats, is it tricking the blogosphere or a lot of really lazy "journos" reposting blindly in an adderall-fueled frenzy instead of looking for average homeboys aka Blazin Hazen
your a fraud Brononymous
your a fraud Brononymous
A conundrum fo sho. I mean,
A conundrum fo sho. I mean, we all do go through changes where we leave the wackness behind us through some kind of self-realization. We all have to grown up and get plastic surgery one day, errr, right? On the other hand, this could be a subversive industry agent.
not sure y lana and that
not sure y lana and that tabbycat are getn indie cred. 1 look at lana's clairol hair is a givaway. same with tabby singing from a copter. carles, u sure yur not thinkin with yur weenie?
lol, envy everywhere And
lol, envy everywhere
And still don't understand what her lips have to do with this all. It isn't supose to be about music?
Her songs are great, that's the metter. If you don't like it... Hm, well, you can do posts like this to try fool ignorant people, lol.
it's obvs you u don't 'get
it's obvs you u don't 'get it'. ur 'brand' transcends even ur own music+creativity and touches upon an individual's 'psyche' so u damn well better be auth.
B.O.O.Y.A.!
link related.
http://tinyurl.com/2fczhgd
p.s. inauthness translates into ur very being/core as well, that includes said music+creativity.
Cool story bro
Cool story bro
its the only story bro, how
its the only story bro, how can u even think she is about music is beyond me
Blogs are endlessly badgering
Blogs are endlessly badgering us about how, at this point, if you disregard manufactured pop based on inauthenticity alone your a close-minded music listener. We're also constantly hearing how it's totally cool that Neon Indian sells Mountain Dew or Grizzly Bear sells VWs cause "band's gotta make a living too, bro". All that shit is bullshit. Either your serious about what you do and care enough about it and will do it for free or you're just doing it for a living. I enjoy both these bands but when they've become advertisements it changes the way I hear them and devalues the music for me. They're just making more money for the same assholes that own our entire political system and consistently try to fuck 95% of the country out of healthcare, childcare, education, etc. I want my buzzbands to be exciting, groundbreaking, against the status quo. I don't want fucking corporate slaves advertising for multi-millionaires so they dominate our lives even further. Still might listen to them but I'm downloading that shit for free. Fuck this bitch and her plastic surgery lifestyle. Hopefully she'll die in a pool of her own vomit like that British daddy's little rich girl.
But if they make it on
But if they make it on their own for real,
and the money comes calling without any hidden catches...
Everyone was having this exact conversation abt alt 20 years ago.
--not that the above has
--not that the above has anything to do with this pouting singer
Very true but it seems like
Very true but it seems like there's a differen consensus in this conversation now then there was 20 years ago. I think corporate sponsorship still sucks whether it's for new or established artists. I also think corporate product like Del Rey is not something the blogosphere should get behind regardless of how 'hip' her sound is. It's bad art because it reinforces false consciousness.
Ryan nailed it.
Ryan nailed it.
Why'd you have to fuck up a
Why'd you have to fuck up a perfectly good point with an out-of-nowhere psychotic death fantasy?
Stalker!
Stalker!
Lana Del Rey is the next Katy
Lana Del Rey is the next Katy Perry.
Yes/no?
booooooooooooooooooooorriiiii
booooooooooooooooooooorriiiiiiiiiiiiiingggggggggggggg
I only like her cuz she keeps
I only like her cuz she keeps getting referenced to Twin Peaks and Twin Peaks is totally alt. Especially when you add triangles: Twin▲▲Peaks
she wants all of our
she wants all of our garmonbozia
bro ur a tru alt
bro ur a tru alt
the lana del rey is not what
the lana del rey is not what she seems
Diggin the expose(ay) vibes
Diggin the expose(ay) vibes carelsbro. Presheeate the knowledge droppin.
WOAH WOAH WOAH.......you mean
WOAH WOAH WOAH.......you mean to tell me her lips are fake?
I don't know what to believe
I don't know what to believe anymore. What is authentic? Has anything ever really been authentic?
it seems that as the
it seems that as the obsession with authenticity and integrity of the 80's dissipated, contemporary indie artists began excusing themselves by saying "hey we need da moolah bro."(grizzly bear n volkswagon :'( ) that didn't fly in the 80's. it may be that our generation has realized that authenticity is just another way for people to feel 'superior.' it's like nothing is real, but our hearts still yearn for non-digital beaches with non-virtual dolphins doing backflips to non-lana del rey's.
Well, In the 80s alt was
Well,
In the 80s alt was anti-fashion fashion
In the Zeros it's just fashion
In the 80s alt was breaking the rules
In the 00s it was Michael Cera questing after a trophy girlfriend.
Because now alt is just another thing to want
While in the 80s, underneath the same shitty mean humor and super smart ironic reference
ppl wanted a better world, actually.
Then the better world happened!!
and so ALT ppl were like, hey might as well make money!!!
Now alts are like, might as well make money!!!
Then the better world
Then the better world happened!!
"Right here, right now, no other place i'd rather be" -1991.
...
Left that line out of my 'ghey poem'.
I really hope plastic surgery
I really hope plastic surgery becomes alt and every alt gets gigantic lips
\]\\she went from relatively
\]\\she went from relatively average, California looking chick to French-Egyptian daughter of yacht magnate. i h8 earning looks 4 my kids and grand kids through the genetic lottery & sexual selection, cos it's so hard, cos pretty people are expensive, and they get treated differently. 2 bad her daughter will be normal looking 2. lana wasn't raised pretty so she sounds like a normal chick in the way she sings, which is cool. i personally can ignore the name and the face because we'll see more of her . this cali retrowave chill jazzy blues bands/singers iz popular atm here in LA
"maybe changing my name and face is as easy as changing a domain name, right daddy?"-lana del rey
crlsbro, ruining this bitches
crlsbro,
ruining this bitches career has been your best movie ina while. cheers!
You know, man, you seem like
You know, man, you seem like a really unpleasant dude. I suspect very few people actually like you (even your so-called friends/'bros'); you're not particularly smart (perhaps ppl make fun of you for this?); & you probably smell 'kinda funky' (& don't know it).
My advice is, chill the h_ck out, be blissful & mellow, & don't waste negative energy h8ing on a chick you 'don't know sh_t' about. (& take a shower).
Positive vibes, bro! :-)
Exploiting this girl is
Exploiting this girl is indeed the best thing crls did in a while. Her music is good and she looks amazing, anyway
Baxter bro, Hi, my name is
Baxter bro, Hi, my name is Broafterall. I'm here to announce you as the most unchill person of the day. Congrats, bro! I hope you get all the positive vibes out wherever you belong (You Belong - Washed Out) SeE yA~ <333 BFF 4 EVA!!!
I agree with the above.
I agree with the above. Better yet, tell the underground band that you love so much to try and get better at what they do (music-wise and image-wise).
Also, something that you can do is to encourage local music scenes so that talent will come up from the underground a lot better.
Carles Bernsteinbro u blew
Carles Bernsteinbro u blew the fakelipped lid off of this scam. That said I don't understand bro aesthetics/ taste lately. Lizzy looks better than lana; real thin lips look better then fake fat ones. Anyway her new lips aren't that fat, they just pooch forward.
Surgery is nothing to sneeze at; she was beautiful before. Plus it's expensive. Class warfare, bro. Poor folk can't afford it. People need to get over their love of plastics and learn to love flesh. Plastic surgery is like an addiction. Pain pills are 4 people in physical pain. Plastic surgery is for people who really need it due to injury illness etc., not for a race of future joan riverses or steven tylers. But it's okay; she still looks normal as long as she quits now.
Bro! How can you be so chill?
Bro! How can you be so chill? I want to learn from you, all the knowledge and wisdom you have. Make it as mine...as if i were you...inside of you and you in me...together, forever...
hey bro, thanx 4 the chill
hey bro, thanx 4 the chill verbage. i just checked in 2 c how lanalizzie's doin & there's, like, 100 more comments than last time. girlfriend's buzzin.
re my knowledge: we could virtual-vibe, bro, or mayb text, but only life can teach this kind of wisdom.
pretty sure he was making an
pretty sure he was making an ass out of you.
Now I'm all saddened by the
Now I'm all saddened by the fact of the matter that you have crept into our intimate connection (via virtual reality); ruining everything...I don't feel it no more. My hear has moved on. Srry Bernstein bro...true love is never meant to be...but someday we will meet face to face and embrace authentic reality vibe.
ok after comparing the before
ok after comparing the before and after lip-job pics I actually have to give it to her and say she looks like she'd be better beej material post knife-up.
I'm an indie girl musician
I'm an indie girl musician with lips larger than Lana's (collagen version). Her lips look extremely symmetrical. I'm someone with very full lips and there are more pillow-like curves on mine. Hers are almost mathematical. Maybe it is indeed surgery. I'm considering nose surgery though, as my nose aren't huge, they're just not as pointy as hers.
Great investigative reporting.
hush now
hush now
lolololololol omg. if you
lolololololol
omg. if you were sincere about the great investigative reporting, this is my new favorite internet comment ever.
Your nose "are" huge? How
Your nose "are" huge? How many nose(s) do you have, indie girl musician? I am confused.
is avril lavigne still indie
is avril lavigne still indie yall?
Lmao!!! Carles, wtf r u
Lmao!!! Carles, wtf r u smoking? The "industry insider" in the 1st pic is her fuckin' DAD: http://www.dnjournal.com/cover/2008/april.htm
Do u research this shit at all? She sux yeah but this is totes over the top. Calm the fuck down, bro. If you ruin her now, there'll be no more pics, lol.
"She is one of the most
"She is one of the most controversial figures in indie, especially as we begin to uncover her past."
Lol, Carles bb, ur trying too hard. Most controversial? In a month? Ur the only legit blog person w/ anything negative to say w/r/t this broad. Not controversial, imo.
why did u have to go and
why did u have to go and break my <3 like this bro ?
i still <3 u tho carles
This is GREAT Carles. You
This is GREAT Carles. You deserve a PRIZE.
Now seriously the issue is p4k and all the blogs supporting her. She does good "pop". Blogosphere is just not her place. The bottom line is: BLOGGERS WERE THINKING WITH THEIR DICKS.
One thing is true - she is
One thing is true - she is the best advertisement for the plastic surgery industry "get a new face and a music career to go along with it!!!"
What shocks me is not that she was/is "mainstream". What's shocking is that she WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON!!!!
That's more shocking to me. She looks soooooo different, even her teeth and the whole face. They must have done so much work to her face, that just shocks me to be honest. She was an average tacky person and now she's transformed. Like Carles said "tricks people into thinking she is cool". Whatevs BB she is huge now!
Both Lizzy and Lana are
Both Lizzy and Lana are hot!!!!!!!
bloggers now fighting on
bloggers now fighting on twitter. gorrila vs. bear defending himself. Song is great. But isn't indie music all about being "real"? I call it sexism. Bon Iver can be all honest and women, well, can be just 100% plastic as long as we like the song. Imagine if that were a guy. If they find out Bon Iver had been some guy tryin' 2 make it in Nashville with a cowboy hat. That would have been OVER for him. Lana del Ray, naaahhhh, she's MEGA hot so who cares about the past..."as long as we like the song" whatever dude. Get real. #double standard
Just saw that on Twitter.
Just saw that on Twitter. Carles, you gotta get in the ring and call Chris a coward. He's selling out the whole blogosphere.
http://elafon.bandcamp.com/
http://elafon.bandcamp.com/
she was definitely hotter
she was definitely hotter before (cute + approachable vs vampy cat lady)
agree
agree
agree
agree
i want 2 b lana del rey, i
i want 2 b lana del rey, i want 2 b relevant, i want 2 b talked abt
don't be sad bb. send hot alt
don't be sad bb. send hot alt pics to carles &
have faith :)
you are relevant. you are alt. you are loved.
rightchous bro above has
rightchous bro above has really got the goods on the indy/rock and roll lockout. It's always been a sexist girls club. the critics just love the chicks especially that jann wenner guy from rolling stone. guys barely stand a chance w so many powerful women in the rock. I can think of at least 2 [via sarcasm].
other bro above hits it out of park re making money. musicians should be able to live without food clothing or shelter. but no anorexics please, only authentically starving artists or big boned women [ via being real not shallow].
the issue here is that her
the issue here is that her great looks have opened tons of doors and bloggers are unwilling to admit that. Guys don't have to be attractive to make it in music and women to an extent, do. Bloggers are pretending that's not an issue. The song is great. She hasn't released an album yet. Adele has sold tons of records because she is also unthreatening to other women. And feels like a real person and all.
Lana is the girl all the guys want to fuck. Let's be real about that and not pretend it's just about the music.
It's not misogynist to say
It's not misogynist to say she is a manufactured, corporate bootlicking non-sentient dumb bitch.
chill bro. point was chicks
chill bro. point was chicks have to be hot to be considered no matter how "authentic" or good their music may be, or for that matter, no matter how bad it may be. guys who consider the world to be their masturbatorium will be mainly concerned with awesome pics. likewise lots of mediocre guys and guy bands don't have their right to exist in the rock world questioned. and guys use their sexuality as part of their appeal 2. that in and of itself isn't even inherently" wrong".
the entire starmaking machine is more shallow than ever but what hasn't changed much is that mens " narratives" "povs" & raison d'etres aren't put through the same relentlessly judgemental scrutiny.
sorry to go non ironic on you carles but when the misogynistic word gets used in a best defense is offense way it kills the vibe.:(
explain tune-yards
explain tune-yards
Bro! Long time no see! I was
Bro! Long time no see! I was just wondering, how did you become an intern @ HipsterRunoff? Or is it just that you are a sLaVe Of ChaRlEs~? It's okay, babe. Half of human beings are bros and the other half are ladies, plenty to choose from :) ***~HAtErS r GoNnA hAtE~***
i'd pound it, piss on her
i'd pound it, piss on her bathroom floor, and leave.
beautiful hotsex fantasy.
beautiful hotsex fantasy. thanks for sharing that bro. :)
only question is would she pound you? or let you pound her? And if she did bang you would she leave poo poo on your bathroom floor? :(
in any case it appears carles is totes right. Lizzielana is* the most controversial figure in the musiblogosphere. 90 comments!!-way to call it.
She looked way fucking hotter
She looked way fucking hotter before
she actually looked more alt
she actually looked more alt before, ironic patriotic flag dress a total hit at our party last weekend
only thing alt about her current look would be if she's actually a bro in 'historically accurate' drag
she actually looked more alt
she actually looked more alt before
She is alt by virtue of her NOT singing the same thing as all of the other pop stars (Katy Perry, Nicky Manaj, Rhianna, Britney Spears, etc.) Her looking hot doesn't mean jack bugger all, it's just a 'look' like what Sid Vicious had, or the Ramones had, or Talking Heads had, or even *gasp* the Beatles (who were 'punk' with their leather jackets, greased hair, white T-shirts, motorcycle boots, and black jeans in their early days and with the looks that we all know and love them for the rest of their careers!) Why begrudge her with her new look and stage name?
She is not authentic, lofi,
She is not authentic, lofi, or DIY. Purely manufactured by Interscope and her management - the fact that she is embraced by "indie" blogs is just sad and embarrassing. For one, she comes from a wealthy family in upstate NY, not a trailer park as her interviews would like you to believe. Her dad, Rob Grant, owns a real estate company:
http://www.adirondackrealestate.com/html/staffwithoutgizzmo.html
How can anyone that lives in a trailer park afford lip surgery? Why would Interscope care about an artist with no previous releases or having played any shows? Follow the money.
Pitchfork is probably getting compensated quite well by Interscope for their coverage of her "indie"/major label music. These publications are pay for play, no matter what they would like you to believe.
I want to have a threesome
I want to have a threesome with Lizzy and Lana
a hundred and firsties
a hundred and firsties
Yall, I've read all 102
Yall, I've read all 102 comments on this topic & it's difficult to tell who is 'playing along' & who is, in fact, dumb as sh_t. As it's HRO, I have a suspicion ~60-__ of the commenters are the latter (that is, unbelievably dumb). Yall do know Carles didn't 'expose' Lana Del Rey, yes? It was 'well known' she was 'formerly' Lizzy Grant & LDR is, like, a persona? [like, you know, Lady Gaga isn't 'really' Lady Gaga]. Or is that too complex for you knuckleheads? I for one knew all this when her 1st mp3 as LDR 'dropped' in, like, 2010.5. I'm 'sorry' if yall are just playin' & I didn't 'get' it, but by God, how freakin' dumb is the typical HRO reader? It makes my head hurt, literally.
ur gaga analogy is crappy
ur gaga analogy is crappy though nd makes me think u r missing the point in a tard-like manner
Nah I'm not 'missing the
Nah I'm not 'missing the point' bro. I've contemplated all the Lana Del Rey issues in depth & meditated upon the various angles & had 'heated discussions' where 'voices were raised' with friends/acquaintances & read multiple 'think pieces' on her all over the blogosphere/Tumblrsphere. I'm ~100% certain I'm not missing any points @ all.
cool story bro, tell it again
cool story bro, tell it again
OK sure: I've been
OK sure:
I've been 'unpacking' all the Lana Del Rey 'issues' for ~3-6 months (not 2 days like a typical HRO duduhead reader). In the peace & solitude of my bedroom I contemplated the variables. I meditated upon the various angles. I contemplated notions of authenticity & 'other pseudo-philosophical sh_t' pertaining to Lizzy G. When I was ready, I tested out my 'strident opinions'/conclusions to random friends & we debated them (often 'heatedly'). I devoted 'hours' to reading think pieces on blogs/Tumblrs & Twitter. The outcome? I've totally deconstructed all the Lana Del Rey issues. That bro who was like 'oh u missed the point loser!' is totally off base. I've approached the problem from every possible angle & I have not missed a thing.
Devoted hours to reading
Devoted hours to reading think pieces on Lana Del Rey? Damn. Seems excessive.
I'm still reeling over the
I'm still reeling over the fact brought out by a bro above that patsy cline was a manufactured drag queen, like gaga, pink, and ariel pink. :(
I always thought she was pretty auth. totes missed the scoop/ relevant angles on that 1.
if she sucks my dick i won't
if she sucks my dick i won't even consider whether it matters or not
This is ridiculous. You
This is ridiculous. You (correctly) dismiss "Foster The People" as fake indie and when the solo female version of that pops up you question wether or not blogs that cover her should be completely dismissed and make several blatantly sexist comments under the guise of questions. She has a decent song and has a semi interesting perspective in interviews. She may not be 100% authentic but to act like this girl is trying to trick hipsters into liking her is insane.
The whole LDR thing is
The whole LDR thing is completely catered to the male fantasy my friend. That's why it worked: all the boys (99% of music industry) love it. That's the issue. I actually used to follow her on facebook. I liked her at first. Then the whole fake thing became obvious...the point of the internet is to be transparent. People are going to find out in a way or another.
Here's what I think Carles is getting at: "indie" should be the one place where looks aren't **everything**. Now we're being fed this thing - her values are 100% mainstream - hot chick who sings. It's depressing, can you imagine, as a female you feel like to matter how good your music is, it's always about the plastic surgery at the end. Even in the places where that shouldn't matter.
That's what's depressing about this. If feels like indie completely embraced mainstream/corporate values. Now compare her to people like St Vincent...there is no comparison.
Except that St.Vincent ISN'T
Except that St.Vincent ISN'T getting the big record contract and major exposure from Interscope/UMG, this gal is. It's sadly all a matter of luck and timing (still).
Whet everybody concerned should realize is that radio is partly to blame-it only wants to sell ads now instead of finding music like it used to. The best and greatest thing to do is to start writing to your Congressperson/senator and lean on them really hard until they bring back the regulation prohibiting companies like Clear Channel from owning every station in one market/city/region; that way, radio might be able to get back to what it used to be and people like St. Vincent would become famous instead of Lana Del Ray (not that I hate her or anything, she a great gal with a great vocal setup, and a decent [almost] hit song>) That will do you and every other American a world of good instead of bitching like babies about Lana Del Ray,Justin Bieber, Rhianna, Katy Perry, Britney, Nickleback, etc.
'video games' is mad good
'video games' is mad good though
More bikini pix please...
More bikini pix please...
If she was authentic alt,
If she was authentic alt, she'd show off her anus hole like GAGA.
This just in: 85-90% of
This just in: 85-90% of Hipster Runoff readers really, REALLY don't 'get' it.
BRO, WE'RE NOT ON THE PAYROLL
BRO, WE'RE NOT ON THE PAYROLL
INTERSCOPE EMPLOYEE!!
INTERSCOPE EMPLOYEE!!
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Might be an idea to use
Might be an idea to use spellcheck and proper grammar when posting an article. Also, who cares if she got lip injections?!? What exactly does that have to do with anything? Video Games is a great song. Does anything else matter?
Interscope intern, obviously.
Interscope intern, obviously.
Agree.Obsessing over her
Agree.Obsessing over her image only perpetuates what you're taking issue with, hipsterrunoff- that music is too much about image.
To these whiners? Not much,
To these whiners? Not much, cause she's the Anti-Christ and must be destroyed.
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hooooly fuck this is my first
hooooly fuck this is my first time ever actually clicking on a link that says "hipsterrunoff" in it and i am so disappointed in myself that i did. Possibly the worst, most vile website on the internet. You guys are fucking douchebags.
This bro speaks the truth.
This bro speaks the truth. This blog (particularly the comments section) has totally 'gone down the sh_tter' & that is undeniable @ this point. Carles should have stayed retired the 1st/2nd/3rd/___ time he announced his retirement. HRO is embarrassing & pathetic @ the moment. The majority of you just do not 'get' it @ all.
gone 2 shit __ > what is ur
gone 2 shit __ > what is ur fave post from the HRO 'golden era' bb?
Carles 'peaked' with his web
Carles 'peaked' with his web famous AnCo 'think piece' [~2K9.1] but prior to that [~most of 2K8] he was on a 'plateau' where a lot of his content was perceptive &/or funnie. Ahhh the sweet memories. That was when you would read an HRO post & it would 'make u think' &/or 'make u LOL.'
Baxter_P: Are you part of
Baxter_P: Are you part of LDR's management team or PR company? Seriously.
Nah bro. I'm a bro who is/was
Nah bro. I'm a bro who is/was an 'avid HRO reader' & who dislikes the 'macho bro bull sh_t'/woman-h8ing/homophobic/racist bull sh_t perpetuated by a lot of HRO readers in the post-2K9.5 HRO era [i.e. after teenage bros found out about HRO & decided it was kewl to 'hang' here & behave like lil' b_tches]. I have 'no opinion' on the quality of Lana's song(s) [via I listen almost exclusively to chill wave & neo / post chill wave & ________ & as such Lana is not 'my style']. But if yall post macho bro jock bull sh_t on HRO I'ma call yall out on it. I want HRO to be a web log that has blissful & chill vibes & to do that we have to 'step to' the bullies & h8rs & educate them.
Peace homeboy
Fuck you and your Baxter P
Fuck you and your Baxter P bitch. This site is still the most insightful, irreverent, and critical blog that has anything to do with relevant music anywhere. HRO's a welcome respite from the po faced undergrad ad-driven vomit that passes for music criticism in the blog world. Not only is this my opinion but it's obviously influential with this same set of bloggers it lampoons. You can't deny the outbreak of criticism regarding LDR throughout the 'blogosphere' (specifically on twitter) that may have been there for a while but only seemed to spark earlier this week when this article was posted. Someone actually taking a different perspective on the too self-serious amatuer music crit world while also remaing fucking hilarious is a fucking gift from the gods. You should thank your pedophile uncle for raping your ass and turning you towards ghey indie rock so you experienced the fleeting desire to wipe your limp-dick mouse pointer on a link to HRO.
This is not a different
This is not a different perspective. This is petty character assassination passing itself off as cultural criticism. Remember when people talked about music?
This shit is like reading Perez Hilton on a Myspace blog. Hateful garbage for hits. I don't even like this girl's music, but go fuck yourselves and read some books.
It's satirical, bro. It's
It's satirical, bro. It's using the celeb gossip blog format to present these ideas in the most excessive hype-fueling reactionary way possible as a critique on the current frenzied 24 hour news cycle media. NOW you can say you "get it".
Yay you know it is 'satire'
Yay you know it is 'satire' bro. Well done, homeboy. Bro, I know it is intended as satire & I can dig that. But in my opinion [& I'm certain I'm not wrong] HRO's satire was once more 'subtle' & sophisticated. The LDR posts & previously the Best Coast posts of 2K10.5 lack enough nuance to be truly 'effective' satire. It's mostly just Carles being a dick 'because he can' & because he's too lazy now to post 'high quality' content regularly [via 'not being as 'into' the blog as he used to be'] & he knows his 'devoted readership' of mostly teenage boys 'love that sh_t' so why not just post bull sh_t [particularly about women & 'ethnic minorities'] & recycle 'old material' & watch the # of hits & ad revenue grow. It's 'throw the sh_t & see what sticks' blogging, not 'meaningful' or 'clever' satire. But hey that's like just my opinion, bro.
Peace & bliss, homeboy.
This may be wrapped in irony,
This may be wrapped in irony, but this is in no way satire. It's defaming the subject, not the format. Try again, bro.
bb u got diamond phoney
bb u got diamond phoney shineyphoney r u real bb it's u bb it's all u bb it's only u bb i got mad collagen bb i got shineyphoney
I laughed so hard I almost
I laughed so hard I almost fudged myself bro.
Interscope intern!!!
Interscope intern!!!
The picture of the "industry
The picture of the "industry insider"—with the caption: Here is Lizzy Grant hanging out with an 'industry insider', probably scheming to 'trick' the indie blogosphere—is a picture of lizzy with her dad! Get accurate information before you post.
Love how the picture on the
Love how the picture on the main page makes it look like we're going to see nude pics of Del Rey. I still support her as an artist -- both her songs have been catchy enough, though I dig her more without the puffy lips.
bb interscope got u on
bb interscope got u on payroll alt bros don't say ' still support her as an artist' just sayin' bb al t bros don't find "catchy" 2 b a good adjective 4 love u r pr bb u got secrets 2 b pplr awww bb <3 4 evr
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OMG...her lips are fake??
OMG...her lips are fake?? Really?? OMG!! R u sure?? Wow, thanks. ¬¬
You're a genius
Indie doesn' exist men..get a life you and write real news.
bb lookin' 4 real newz bb y
bb lookin' 4 real newz bb y did u come 2 HRO then??? Did u think w r newz channel bb w r alt bros 2 gthr mainstreamer go home bb we come to HRO for belly laughs it's so funny bb awwwww u think indie isn't 4 realz aww u r wrong 2
Sooooo cute. Sooooo witty.
Sooooo cute. Sooooo witty.
Learn how to write.
Learn how to write.
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gotta say i love Lana Del
gotta say i love Lana Del Rey...and isnt everyone trying to get in the door, re-inventing etc including you guys...nice ad$ are just fake lips really, arent they? indie blogosphere...you guys are practically rolling stone on VICE, innit?
bb u r hot <3 u it's u bb
bb u r hot <3 u it's u bb it's all u bb it's only u bb
so real
u r on the payroll
i wanna get on payroll
Chili's Triple Dippers.
Chili's Triple Dippers.
PLEASE READ: Doesn't the
PLEASE READ: Doesn't the video of the old Lizzy prove that she really hasn't changed that much now that she as you say is backed by all this money? She has the same "retro" style and uses the same type of video. I don't get how this helps your argument that she is "manufactured" if in this argument you provide proof that she was pretty much the same (with the exception of the obviously fake lips) prior to signing to a major label and getting $ behind her. I agree that much of her music isn't that great (although I think blue jeans is a decent song), and that some of it does seem contrived, but is that the doing of a record label trying to make money or Lana herself trying to seem cool to broken-hearted girls who watch James Dean films? And since when did people get so serious about music? If I myself genuinely enjoy a song, should I feel guilty for listening to it if it's not "indie" enough? I am an advocate for quality music, but you like what you like, and to stop listening to what you like to keep from upsetting musical tight-asses seems ridiculous to me. The fact that you guys are dissing music blogs for bringing such "manufactured" music is bullying people to not make their own choice about music and feel stupid for liking music that you are so apparently above. The job of a music blog is for them to bring music they think is good to the people, and allow them to make their OWN decision on whether to agree, not right a whole term paper on why their opinion is correct. I'm all for stating your opinion, but don't try to push that opinion on others or try to make people seem ignorant for not agreeing with it. By doing that you yourself go against what music itself is about. It's about freedom, making your own damn choice and playing and listening to what the hell you want to. Music is to entertain, and to make people happy, it is simple. So stop ruining the beautiful simplicity of it by making it the subject of some huge debate. Your elitist taste in music is no different than the elitist music labels and corporations you talk so badly of. Calm down and enjoy music for music's sake...don't use it to make yourself feel "enlightened". END RANT
Cool story bro, got another
Cool story bro, got another one?
No, but your ma does
No, but your ma does
wtf is with the obsession
wtf is with the obsession with her lips???
she didn't pretend anything. f*ck, her two hit singles have been _about_ retro stylization. it's stylized pop, it's fluffy and produced, and it's also really enjoyable. so no, it's not that it doesn't matter because she looks good in a bikini. it doesn't matter because it's still fun to listen to. she hasn't been trying to convince anyone this wasn't just a persona. no one thought it wasn't. except maybe hipsterrunoff, who seems to be trying to convince people this is a hardhitting expose.
I AGREE
I AGREE
"Should the blogosphere
"Should the blogosphere 'banish' her from indie instead of 'hyping her in2 the club'?"
Do you honestly think "indie" is some sort of exclusive club for cool people? How pathetic.
Maybe her lips got swollen
Maybe her lips got swollen from blowing a bunch of dudes at Union Pool?
Oh dear. Someone's raging and
Oh dear. Someone's raging and being serious. In the internet's infinite wisdom...
u MAD BRO?
i don't get it. the only
i don't get it. the only difference is she is now a brunette and her lips are messed up. she most likely became a hipster when the hipster movement started - just like every other hipster. welcome to the new grunge era. where are the individuals?
so ive been listening to her
so ive been listening to her for 2 years. YES TWO YEARS ,not 2 weeks. lana del rey des not exist , shes a creation and belongs to lizzy grant. lizzy is bright and will work her way to the top. whoever feel its wrong to take yourself higher, stay down there. blogging is so much fun anyway. it gives one carl guy the impression hes a journalist where hes just a hipster asshole in the right pair of jeans ( now what the fuck was that) who think hes got a deep perspective. people who say music is waht counts are coward ???? he did write that above. well i say people who write things like that seriously should be told they had a lobotomy and are missing necessary parts of their brains to form ideas that make sense, or at least are interesting. Lana del rey is not controversial. shes just going up, and flipping the bird to all frustrated white males downt there, and will fuck the ones she like and thats none of your business (unless she tells you it is ,then you will blog about it and blablabla.
Guillaume Higgins
Easily one of the dumbest
Easily one of the dumbest blog posts I've ever read. Saying that "indie" is supposed to be about "authenticity", but then being concerned (scared?) about whether "the man" is gonna be able to fool morons bloggers who consider themselves (and sadly, probably are) "taste makers"? Sounds like Carles might just be mad that the man might be overriding his "taste making" powers. Go get another tattoo, sip on your craft beer, and tell everybody how you used to make mix tapes. You're a HDB just like the rest. I wanna be different just like you.
I couldn't of said it better
I couldn't of said it better myself. Bravo!
Ha! Good effort there,
Ha! Good effort there, chumpster Carles, but those photos are of her sister and her Dad.
none of you get it. her music
none of you get it. her music is completely mediocre and unremarkable. The point of the post isn't 'she is not authentic so therefore she sucks' it's 'her music is mediocre. why is she popular?' indie isn't some exclusive club, but it's somewhere where ideally people are popular because of talent. let people have indie, let people like music for artistry. you can have your bland pop stars. the broader implications for women having success in music are also apparent. those mean old elitist hipsters just like people who actually deserve it to succeed, and for an equal playing field not based on who's the hottest, or who can afford more surgery.
That's not what 'indie' is
That's not what 'indie' is about and you know it. People who actually care about good music more than about bitching about bad music (hopefully) have the sense to not give themselves a label.
In the end, I don't know why
In the end, I don't know why everyone can't just like what they like without relying on either the "industry" or on equally worthless hack bloggers such as yourself. Yeah this chick's music is mediocre, but I didn't need you to tell me that, and I didn't need this girl's back story to sway my opinion. Yeah it sucks that she seems to have gotten a corporate makeover for the specific purpose of luring in a demographic, but if you can see that, then hopefully you can see that whining about this fact isn't exactly elevating the conversation. You're feeding the corporation just as much as the idiots who believe in her authenticity are.
If you really want to see her fail, DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT HER.
this is just shallow though.
this is just shallow though. just obsessing over the fact that she's 'fake indie'. it's pathetic how people are so obsessed with people being alternative and hipster, thinking you have a higher status if you listen to music that is categorized alternative. in the end you're all the same anyway.
There should be concentration
There should be concentration camps for all of you hipster douchebags.
Fake lips or not, she can
Fake lips or not, she can still sing and has a great style. She isn't trying to hide who she was before or the changes brought on by the record label who signed her. That's what record labels do - they sign talented people and find a niche where their music will be successful. She didn't change her musical style or the way she makes videos..it's all still her. Minus the lips. All you hipster haters who think you've exposed some great injustice to indie music need to get over yourselves.
No one ever reads down this
No one ever reads down this far, so it doesn't matter what I say. Blah blah purple monkey hat boner.
Reading prt uv tha thred abuv, obvsly, you kids these days don't care about letters or sentences or have any fucking idea about anything. You think everything in the world started two years ago when your parents started allowing you to use the Internet by your self.
News flash: you've only heard of Elvis, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Ramones, Nirvana, MGMT, Tribe Called Quest, Johnny Cash, Michael Jackson, Feist, JZ, Kesha, The Postal Service, Arctic Monkeys, Cat Power, etc. because they are part of the MUSIC INDUSTRY. If the only music that's any good is music that never makes any money, then musicians all have to have real jobs or live off their parents. How real is that??
When your parents stop giving you money, things will get funny. Fucking idiot kids.
LMAO @ all of the defensive
LMAO @ all of the defensive posts LMAO LMFAO
CARLES THIS IS WHY YOU RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every band/artist out there
Every band/artist out there went through an evolution to somehow get heard and get successful...from name changes, to style changes, to sound changes (Led Zeppelin, Chili Peppers,Kings of Leon--everybody)...the point is, she's got talent, and whoever's writing her songs now does too. I'd much rather hear great songs by someone who went through a cleverly marketed image change than sh*tty auto-tuned songs by all the others out there without actual talent AND manufactured images.
Every band/artist out there
Every band/artist out there went through an evolution to somehow get heard and get successful...from name changes, to style changes, to sound changes (Led Zeppelin, Chili Peppers,Kings of Leon--everybody)...the point is, she's got talent, and whoever's writing her songs now does too. I'd much rather hear great songs by someone who went through a cleverly marketed image change than sh*tty auto-tuned songs by all the others out there without actual talent AND manufactured images.
Every band/artist out there
Every band/artist out there went through an evolution to somehow get heard and get successful...from name changes, to style changes, to sound changes (Led Zeppelin, Chili Peppers,Kings of Leon--everybody)...the point is, she's got talent, and whoever's writing her songs now does too. I'd much rather hear great songs by someone who went through a cleverly marketed image change than sh*tty auto-tuned songs by all the others out there without actual talent AND manufactured images.
Every band/artist out there
Every band/artist out there went through an evolution to somehow get heard and get successful...from name changes, to style changes, to sound changes (Led Zeppelin, Chili Peppers,Kings of Leon--everybody)...the point is, she's got talent, and whomever's writing her songs now does too. I'd much rather hear great songs by someone who went through a cleverly marketed image change than sh*tty auto-tuned songs by all the others out there without actual talent AND manufactured images.
Every band/artist out there
Every band/artist out there went through an evolution to somehow get heard and get successful...from name changes, to style changes, to sound changes (Led Zeppelin, Chili Peppers,Kings of Leon--everybody)...the point is, she's got talent, and whomever's writing her songs now does too. I'd much rather hear great songs by someone who went through a cleverly marketed image change than sh*tty auto-tuned songs by all the others out there without actual talent AND manufactured images.
Are you still wasting
Are you still wasting bandwidth on the Internet writing this shit, Carles? For fucks sake, give up already. Girl has talent, whether original or v2.0. You don't. Sounds like repressed (or obvious and overt) jealously and girl crush lust on your part.
Lizzy Grant was on a tiny
Lizzy Grant was on a tiny label and had promise. She was gorgeous and sensitive and smart and sweet. Then she started to believe the "hype." She forgot the people who helped her early on. Everything fell apart, she went to Europe and came back a blonde with puffy lips. I used to adore this girl. Not sure where it all fell apart.
Not a blonde, a BRUNETTE.
Not a blonde, a BRUNETTE. LOLZ, I suxxor at intraweb.
Maybe you should have given
Maybe you should have given her the attention she deserved instead of 'playing your video games.' It was 'all 4 u', asshole!
Pop star is paid by record
Pop star is paid by record label scandal.
At least she can hold a note…
At least she can hold a note… not like Lady Fucking Gaga…
Give this girl a chance, Get rid of Gaga…
so a woman feels the need to
so a woman feels the need to fill her lips with collagen and hang out with the big dicks to get some attention.
how is this news to you?
angelina jolie, megan fox shaped modern day totems pushed in our faces cinema, magazines, adverts, pornsites SEXSEXSEX BITCHBITCHBITCHSLUTSLUTSLUT
expected yet despised
kudos on all your bitter tirades of hate btw. do you bathe in that bile? xxx
She sounds like shit.
She sounds like shit.
Has no one heard her song
Has no one heard her song video games? I heard it live and it hurt my soul. Yeah she's had some work done... she's still amazing though. Seriously I don't understand why everyone is talking about her looks and not her talent. SHE'S SEXY AS FUCK NOW ANYWAYS.
Carles - newsflash for you...
Carles - newsflash for you... the "INDUSTRY INSIDER" she's standing with in the first and third pictures (striped white shirt) guess what dipshit... THAT'S HER DAD!
What makes this even more hilarious is I finally just got around to listening to her after hearing about all of the controversy and it took me about 5 minutes to figure out that was her dad, who is some domain investor... here, go to http://robgrant.com/images/rob-grant-picsmaller.jpg
In any event, clearly you're just a whiny little prick, but if you're going to go after someone, you should at least try and get your facts straight.
...for the record, I don't see what the big deal is with her either way. She has 1 decent pop song, so who cares. Wow she got plastic surgery? Still don't give a shit.
Worst. Blog. Ever.
Worst. Blog. Ever.
http://checkthis.com/peoplewi
http://checkthis.com/peoplewithlanadelreylips
You should absolutely check
You should absolutely check out her performance with Mando Diao at their MTV Unplugged in September 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVFxf6P_hc0
Do you know what I don't
Do you know what I don't understand about you lot? Most of you are hypocrites. When a singer/actress/whoever has a flaw like a crooked nose or is overweight you say ''she/he should have a nose job'' or ''they should lose weight coz they're promoting obesity'' etc. When they do something about it you also judge ''oh she/he's so fake.''
At the end of the day, Lana Del Rey will not be able to win with you lot, and to be honest, I don't think she really gives a shit. She's doing it for herself, and if it's a mistake, she'll learn from it. Or she won't. Whatever.
IT'S ABOUT THE TALENT. F**K HOW THEY LOOK. Now go live, love, get happy. I don't like all of this negative energy. I'm gonna eat some chocolate and watch a Disney film ^.^
Troll as been spotted bro.
Troll as been spotted bro.
Finally some common sense in
Finally some common sense in here. If you say that it is all about music and then go on a neverending rant about one singer's appearance like it is the biggest fucking deal, you are a hypocrite.
There is a lot of hype in
There is a lot of hype in this article about how she looks. I've been listening to her song on iTunes. I like the music, I think she's got something special there.
If this is how you write your articles about individuals. I really hope that someday someone returns the favour and write a really good article about you.
Gotta agree with the last few
Gotta agree with the last few posts…
I hate fakers more than most, and I despise music that's nothing more than a shameless meaningless commodity manufactured by cold hearted sociopaths in suits, however that's just not the case here...
So she began a music career a couple of years ago and since then she changed her STAGE name and looks? No really?! C'mon, what's new about that? It doesn't make her fake.
If she were now doing something fundamentally different to before then I could understand some of the disapproval, but clearly she's not! Same genre, voice and even video style. That's staying fairly true to form in my mind. By comparison, manufactured commercial artists often change their look, genre, vocal style and video style with each and every release.
More to the point, 'Video Games' is responsible for her current rise to fame, nothing else. The song is her big break and that's what's been getting her noticed. And so it should be, it's an exquisitely haunting song and performance.
I mean really, lets just all be thankful that she isn't just another sh*tty GENERIC PRODUCT being shoved down our throats by that soul destroying and unrelenting annual INFOMERCIAL that should really be called the WHY factor.
*If she was, I'd be taking a dump with the blogger.
Peace
Good god this has to be the
Good god this has to be the most pretentious review of someone ever. OMG she had an album before which sounded exactly like the shit she does now only a lot of people didnt pay attention to it.
Let's completely ignore anything about her music and talk about her collagen lips. Christ, I hated hipsters before it was cool.
If she were now doing
If she were now doing something fundamentally different to before then I could understand some of the disapproval, but clearly she's not! Same genre, voice and even video style. That's staying fairly true to form in my mind. By comparison, manufactured commercial artists often change their look, genre, vocal style and video style with each and every release.
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You need therapy, because
You need therapy, because obviously you are full of hate.
"Here is Lizzy Grant hanging
"Here is Lizzy Grant hanging out with an 'industry insider', probably scheming to 'trick' the indie blogosphere." What a load of shite!
It's a photo of her with her father Rob Grant.
All you had to do was research this properly, but that doesn't get done a lot these days does it? What exactly are you bitter about?
She's lovely to talk to, down to earth and most of all real...give her a break eh?
Love the song video games.
Love the song video games. Heard her on Jooles Holland, great voice too. Defo noticed the lips straight away though...why people feel the need to get that done says a lot about society today. Poor lass, maybe they'll deflate one day.
GET OVER YOURSELVES! She's
GET OVER YOURSELVES! She's hot and cool
for heavens sake, these
for heavens sake, these photos up there are her with her father and his business friends, not any (music) industry insiders.
http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2009/dailyposts/20091027.htm
eh, she has "potential" but
eh, she has "potential" but she will never be a Liz Phair or Mazzy Star.
I don't see much growing room for her when she already had to "start over" ..
give it up, get a real job.
and
honestly, she kinda gives me the creeps.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
This is a whole load of
This is a whole load of moronic nonsense. Music is about music period. Can she sing - absolutely and wonderfully. Are the songs she sings original, interesting and inellectual - yes absolutely. Does her music take you somewhere new and expand your musical horizons - absolutely. Do you realy give a monkeys about her image, physical appearance, marketing - only if you are a superficial half wit who knows nothing about the nature and spirit of music. Commercialism and superficiality weren't invented by Lana Del Rey - they were invented by the ad men of america a very log time ago, and continued by the superficial bafoons of popular culture who obsess about plastic surgery and looks as if any of it somehow has an astonishig impact on the musical talents of an individual. A thousand victims of this superficiality over music have been lost because people forget what really matters. This girl, however it happens, makes wonderful emotional, intellectual and thoughtful musical poems that richens lifesexperience. Her music is to be treasured, how she came to be brought to us and how she is packaged is musically an irrelevance.
She has an
She has an interesting/distinctive voice and Video Games is a good song. Though I don't think it really goes anywhere personally. Still LDR is obviously getting something right and I think it's naive to say it's not an image thing and is purely about the music. She went for the frustrated hipster guy demographic and pretty much nailed it? And the songs + vocal are good enough for those guys to be able to justify liking her vibes to themselves. If she wasn't hot then I don't think a lot of them would look/listen twice. But then pop was always a lot about image - is she really posing as alt? It doesn't surprise me she's not totally new but so many artists rebrand slightly that's normal it's not news. Maybe the blogger just saying that to get more attention anyway. I'm waiting for my hair to dry can't believe I read all these posts. Is it a big conspiracy - probably not, just some clever marketing that doesn't take that much to see through. She's a lot better than most of the other manufactured stuff out there right now.
Her music makes me feel
Her music makes me feel something. Some may think that makes me simple because something more complex makes them feel something. I'm not them though. I don't have control over what music, food, art affects me emotionally at any given moment so I'm sorry for everyone who is caught up on the details but I, like many others, think she is great.
It's kind of like when someone gives you great advice but you don't like the way they said it, so it doesn't matter. Good music is still measured on an emotional level. Be it anger, hope, sadness, relief or a sense of belonging; the bottom line is how an artist makes you feel.
I didn't know whether to like
I didn't know whether to like her or not, but the music is alright if not particularly original- Whether she's fake... well no not really... ever heard of Ziggy Stardust? characters and concept albums have been around in music for a long time so I don't really see the problem here??
Don't get your knickers in a twist because she has a major label behind her and you feel betrayed because you thought you were in with a chance of nailing her and posting naked pictures of her on tumblr.
also indie has never really been about authenticity- its about making the music you believe in, and i have no doubt that she believes in her music.
It was about time for Hope
It was about time for Hope Sandoval to have that heroin face fixed.
"Do u h8 her or <3 her bc she
"Do u h8 her or <3 her bc she is hot?"
Seriously, why would you write like this?
Did you not pass HS?
Are you 14?
The author of this article need to stop writing like she was a 14 year old girl who can't write.
Hahaha. That is so painfully
Hahaha. That is so painfully true.
I never thought I would find
I never thought I would find something so hateful about a girl that you don't even know. Why is everyone so focused on her appearance? Shouldn't the focus be on the music or the talent? This is so fucking ridiculous.
I could not agree more, here
I could not agree more, here is someone who writes rather touching, profound and excellent lyrics, reads them in a varied and interesting way (several versions of some songs on Youtube), crosses between several genres (from You Can Be The Boss to Video Games to Mermaid Hotel f.ex.), some of which have mainstream potential and some that do not, so she clearly has talent, the fact that Interscope only picked her up on October 28, 2011 probably says more about the quality of judgement in the music industry than it does about her persona or her music, although the people I know within the music industry would have signed Lana/Lizzie up had they been approached.
In my view she will go far and Carles will be shown to be a sad, hateful negative individual whose claim to internet fame is posts like this, what a legacy to leave!
I hope she re-records her earlier material from her earlier album(s), as for me and many others there are several great songs, so Lana if you are reading this (probably not given the level of negativity and character assassinations contained in this thread) please consider doing that!
She has good vocals and makes
She has good vocals and makes great music. The pretentiousness of this article is annoying. And how does her lips have anything to do with her music?
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